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Is the intention to say that Ascension Island is a workplace, not a (stable) community ? If so, say so. Who is this chap's speechwriter? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 02:12:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Interesting quote from Governor Gurr in today?s Independent ? nice to know he sees Ascension Island as ?superior to a labour camp? but not somewhere people can live their lives ? whatever that may mean. Arbeit macht frei! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). 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All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia _____ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2008 6:56 PM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! What awful drivvle. It is a real non-statement. Is the intention to say that Ascension Island is a workplace, not a (stable) community ? If so, say so. Who is this chap's speechwriter? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 02:12:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Interesting quote from Governor Gurr in today's Independent - nice to know he sees Ascension Island as "superior to a labour camp" but not somewhere people can live their lives - whatever that may mean. Arbeit macht frei! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080112/d0457736/attachment.htm From Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp Sat Jan 12 10:47:11 2008 From: Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp (Bob Bowmer) Date: Sat Jan 12 10:47:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Message-ID: Many thanks. Excuse my ignorance but is the main objection to permanent settlement coming from the USA which is looking to continue to use the island as a military camp devoid of non-military related life? Their stance being based on strategic considerations and potential for targetted aggression ? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Sent: Sat Jan 12 09:41:08 2008 Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! I think that?s what he is saying, but since when does a bureaucrat speak in plain language?? The rest of his speech is worth reading just to see the wriggle on the question of permanent residence. All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2008 6:56 PM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! What awful drivvle. It is a real non-statement. Is the intention to say that Ascension Island is a workplace, not a (stable) community ? If so, say so. Who is this chap's speechwriter? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 02:12:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Interesting quote from Governor Gurr in today?s Independent ? nice to know he sees Ascension Island as ?superior to a labour camp? but not somewhere people can live their lives ? whatever that may mean. Arbeit macht frei! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080112/6b047698/attachment-0001.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Sat Jan 12 12:04:54 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Sat Jan 12 11:05:55 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4788ACE6.5223.2A29E2@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 12 Jan 2008 at 9:47, Bob Bowmer wrote: > is the main objection to permanent settlement coming from the > USA which is looking to continue to use the island as a military > camp devoid of non-military related life? Yes. > Their stance being based on strategic considerations and potential for > targetted aggression ? That's a matter of opinion. I would say, based upon strategic considerations and potential for defence against aggression by other parties. > Arbeit macht frei! Well, doesn't it? Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From ghenesh_49 at optusnet.com.au Sat Jan 12 11:32:40 2008 From: ghenesh_49 at optusnet.com.au (Terry Herbert) Date: Sat Jan 12 11:33:17 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200801121032.m0CAWeTD027647@mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au> It has never been openly stated, but you only have to consider the Chagos Island/Diego Garcia saga to add two and two together. Of course rumors are rife on St Helena that the final decision to spend a fortune on the wharf and the airport are due more to military strategy than for the benefit of the islanders. St Helena was apparently identified as a safe haven for US navy vessels and for a bit of R&R - if ever required of course!! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia _____ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2008 8:47 PM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Many thanks. Excuse my ignorance but is the main objection to permanent settlement coming from the USA which is looking to continue to use the island as a military camp devoid of non-military related life? Their stance being based on strategic considerations and potential for targetted aggression ? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Sent: Sat Jan 12 09:41:08 2008 Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! I think that's what he is saying, but since when does a bureaucrat speak in plain language?? The rest of his speech is worth reading just to see the wriggle on the question of permanent residence. All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2008 6:56 PM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! What awful drivvle. It is a real non-statement. Is the intention to say that Ascension Island is a workplace, not a (stable) community ? If so, say so. Who is this chap's speechwriter? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 02:12:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Interesting quote from Governor Gurr in today's Independent - nice to know he sees Ascension Island as "superior to a labour camp" but not somewhere people can live their lives - whatever that may mean. Arbeit macht frei! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080112/45408435/attachment.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Sat Jan 12 12:36:19 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Sat Jan 12 11:37:19 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: <200801121032.m0CAWeTD027647@mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: , <200801121032.m0CAWeTD027647@mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4788B443.1994.46EA6B@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 12 Jan 2008 at 21:32, Terry Herbert wrote: > ... rumors are rife on St Helena that the final decision to spend a > fortune on the wharf and the airport are due more to military > strategy than for the benefit of the islanders. St Helena was > apparently identified as a safe haven for US navy vessels and for > a bit of R&R - if ever required of course!! And wouldn't that bring benefit of the islanders? It seems to me like a much-needed opportunity for doing some honest entertainment business. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From ghenesh_49 at optusnet.com.au Sat Jan 12 11:42:00 2008 From: ghenesh_49 at optusnet.com.au (Terry Herbert) Date: Sat Jan 12 11:42:49 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: <4788B443.1994.46EA6B@thomas.flyingkettle.com> Message-ID: <200801121042.m0CAg16e003942@mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au> It didn't benefit the Chagos Islanders! All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Thomas Goodey Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2008 10:36 PM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! On 12 Jan 2008 at 21:32, Terry Herbert wrote: > ... rumors are rife on St Helena that the final decision to spend a > fortune on the wharf and the airport are due more to military > strategy than for the benefit of the islanders. St Helena was > apparently identified as a safe haven for US navy vessels and for > a bit of R&R - if ever required of course!! And wouldn't that bring benefit of the islanders? It seems to me like a much-needed opportunity for doing some honest entertainment business. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From thomas at flyingkettle.com Sat Jan 12 12:45:18 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Sat Jan 12 11:46:19 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: <200801121042.m0CAg16e003942@mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <4788B443.1994.46EA6B@thomas.flyingkettle.com>, <200801121042.m0CAg16e003942@mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4788B65E.6660.4F249E@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 12 Jan 2008 at 21:42, Terry Herbert wrote: > > > St Helena was apparently identified > > > as a safe haven for US navy vessels and for > > > a bit of R&R - if ever required of course!! > > > And wouldn't that bring benefit to the islanders? > It didn't benefit the Chagos Islanders! Diego Garcia is not used for R&R, rather the contrary. You need R&R after having been stationed there. It is a base. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From prporter1 at aim.com Sat Jan 12 14:57:24 2008 From: prporter1 at aim.com (prporter1@aim.com) Date: Sat Jan 12 14:58:00 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA233A31ABEF34-1270-3696@WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com> I agree that it is awful. I don't know why he says it. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:56 am Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! What awful drivvle. It is a real non-statement. Is the intention to say that Ascension Island is a workplace, not a (stable) community ? If so, say so. Who is this chap's speechwriter? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 02:12:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Interesting quote from Governor Gurr in today?s Independent ? nice to know he sees Ascension Island as ?superior to a labour camp? but not somewhere people can live their lives ? whatever that may mean. Arbeit macht frei! All the best Terry Herbert ???????? DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, ????????? Australia ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080112/f9d6d807/attachment.htm From Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp Sat Jan 12 20:40:08 2008 From: Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp (Bob Bowmer) Date: Sat Jan 12 20:40:40 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! Message-ID: Now this one I can understand as it increments the current economy, if economic growth is being sought. Loss of or dilution of local culture must also be considered. No, my issue is why the UK Government continue to be negative on permanent settlement of Ascension Island. I can only surmise that this is due to strategic military issues. Anyone else got any ideas ? -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sat Jan 12 11:36:19 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Ascension Island not a labour camp!! On 12 Jan 2008 at 21:32, Terry Herbert wrote: > ... rumors are rife on St Helena that the final decision to spend a > fortune on the wharf and the airport are due more to military > strategy than for the benefit of the islanders. St Helena was > apparently identified as a safe haven for US navy vessels and for > a bit of R&R - if ever required of course!! And wouldn't that bring benefit of the islanders? It seems to me like a much-needed opportunity for doing some honest entertainment business. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080112/05ae2df7/attachment.htm From IrvingDylan at aol.com Sun Jan 13 22:47:02 2008 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Sun Jan 13 22:47:40 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Read along! An open e-mail to St Helena FM and its weekly Independent Message-ID: But hey St Helena FM, Please, guys ... help, please! After trying my all but 69-year-old hardest to want to understand, along with other correspondents to the pages of Too Many Birthdays blitzing the printers this coming Battle of Britain Day, what Governor Gurr wants to tell folk about Ascension - a gemini-of-an island waiting to twin with St Helena in the remote tropical waters of the South Atlantic - please guys, is there an independent biog of His Excellency you can send me by e-mail? A biog able to answer such questions as to whether or not English is Governor Gurr's first language? After all, his family name is French. His ancestors were guerriers - 1066 foot soldiers following in William-the-Conqueror's invading sandprints landing to plough up the Sussex beaches to defeat the Brits at the Battle of Hastings ? and it doesn't escape this hack's sense of imagination how one or more of your island guv's ancestors lives on in his genes to hold a Gurr grudge for the final indignity dealt to their defeated, exiled and soon deceased Boney by a missionary priest on St Helena clipping and pickling for posterity their French emperor's balls. "Bollocks!" exclaims Cressroads? Henry Reginald Harwood, similarly rising-69, but with the wit to be prescribed testosterone jabs to maintain his vitality, while the threat of impotence is ever present for this town's hack given a daily.5mg-dosage of Bendrofumethiazide to double as treatment for checking in on his blood pressure and water retention. Who cares? Mostly, Irv prays, his Princess Helena - yes, guys, Helena - without whose tender loving care and wish to accompany her geriatric commoner on his upcoming voyage to your homeland aboard the RMS St Henlena, Cressroads' town hack would not look forward to coming of age this October 19 - or next! Please come back to me soonest, Mike Irving Founding editor of Outdoor Canada magazine p.s. For those who missed the news ... ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who ?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080113/782b31e3/attachment.htm From IrvingDylan at aol.com Sun Jan 13 22:52:52 2008 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Sun Jan 13 22:53:23 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Message-ID: ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who? s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080113/96a8d7bb/attachment.htm From Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp Sun Jan 13 23:19:57 2008 From: Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp (Bob Bowmer) Date: Sun Jan 13 23:20:27 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Message-ID: Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080113/2cd3359d/attachment.htm From prporter1 at aim.com Mon Jan 14 02:48:18 2008 From: prporter1 at aim.com (prporter1@aim.com) Date: Mon Jan 14 02:48:50 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA2466ABB17205-80C-19E8@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. ? You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ?? ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? ?? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv!? And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ?? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? ?? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. ?? Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11????? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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In-Reply-To: <8CA2466ABB17205-80C-19E8@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA2466ABB17205-80C-19E8@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: God day all Please don't send my all the mail's that you guys are sending around. Will appreciate Have a nice day. Jan Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island's Information Office of the Chief Secretary - who's dat? - on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday's next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ' ... UK has made it very clear that right of abode' (on Ascension Island) 'and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,' His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent's full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as 'tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ' ... Ascension is not that sort of island' - begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? - 'it is not that sort of society' - or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? - ' and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.' Er, no! Cressroads' town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn't a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You'll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ' ... those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think - Don't, Guv! Don't go there! - 'quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.' Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook - and there's plenty more of the same reported in the Independent - loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria's British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today's reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. 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If you are on a mailing list then you're on the mailing list for everything. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Mon Jan 14 05:48:44 2008 Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? God day all Please don?t send my all the mail?s that you guys are sending around. Will appreciate Have a nice day. Jan Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Then please take me off Thanks Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: 14 January 2008 08:54 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? No way of stopping it. If you are on a mailing list then you're on the mailing list for everything. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Mon Jan 14 05:48:44 2008 Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? God day all Please don't send my all the mail's that you guys are sending around. Will appreciate Have a nice day. Jan Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island's Information Office of the Chief Secretary - who's dat? - on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday's next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ' ... UK has made it very clear that right of abode' (on Ascension Island) 'and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,' His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent's full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as 'tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ' ... Ascension is not that sort of island' - begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? - 'it is not that sort of society' - or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? - ' and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.' Er, no! Cressroads' town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn't a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You'll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ' ... those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think - Don't, Guv! Don't go there! - 'quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.' Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook - and there's plenty more of the same reported in the Independent - loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria's British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today's reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. 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The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. Any reference to past performance should not be taken as an indication of future performance. MUSI or any affiliated company may have an interest, position, or effect transactions, in any investment mentioned herein. Any opinions or recommendations expressed herein are solely those of the author or analyst and are subject to change without notice. Neither MUSI nor any of its affiliates accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from any use of information or material contained herein. This message is intended solely for the individual addressee named above. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Messages sent via this medium may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alteration. Read our disclaimer at http://www.omnibridge.com/contact/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080114/accb0cc3/attachment.htm From john at burghhouse.com Mon Jan 14 09:51:15 2008 From: john at burghhouse.com (John Turner) Date: Mon Jan 14 09:52:24 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To reply to several of these: 1: I'm sure Governor Gurr doesn't have a speechwriter. I think he speaks largely off-the cuff, and the item in question was the transcript of a radio interview. Given that most people in such positions merely recite carefully scripted meaningless twaddle designed to obscure rather than inform, having someone who says what he thinks is refreshing. That being the case, we all say things that we feel afterwards (sometimes immediately afterwards) we could have expressed better, and I'd rather have the openness. I think it's grossly unfair to describe what he said as gobbledegook. 2: As I understand it the UK's primary objection to giving the right of abode in Ascension is that if, in the future the island's economy failed, the UK government would be obliged to support the residents, as it does St. Helena today. Ascension's economy is highly dependent on its military importance and if that changed the island would not have a sustainable economy. 3: I can't comment on Irving Dylan's contributions because I can't figure out what they are all about. But we were discussing gobbledegook ... I'll also comment on the item featured in this morning's 7am SaintFM news, about a South African travel writer telling St. Helena that it shouldn't have an airport. I'd rather people who don't live here, and in many cases have never even visited here, stopped telling St. Helena what to do. I wouldn't presume to advise the residents of another country how to organise their affairs, so why do they think we care what they think we should do? There are plenty of problems in South Africa so perhaps he should concentrate his efforts on sorting out his own country's problems and leave us to sort out ours. End of rant! John Turner Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 (office +290 2044) NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. P Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080114/2744ced4/attachment.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Mon Jan 14 11:01:00 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Mon Jan 14 10:01:36 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <478B40EC.10706.4CCFC1@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 14 Jan 2008 at 8:51, John Turner wrote: > 2: As I understand it the UK's primary objection to giving the > right of abode in Ascension is that if, in the future the > island's economy failed, the UK government would be obliged to > support the residents, as it does St. Helena today. Ascension's > economy is highly dependent on its military importance and if > that changed the island would not have a sustainable economy. And also presumably that, if there were a permanent local population with acknowledged rights, at some stage in the future they might give some kind of grief to the military facilities - the establishment of which was the unique and only reason that Ascension became inhabited in the first place (1815, as I understand). [All I know is gleaned from wikipedia.] > I'll also comment on the item featured in this morning's 7am > SaintFM news, about a South African travel writer telling St. > Helena that it shouldn't have an airport. I'd rather people who > don't live here, and in many cases have never even visited here, > stopped telling St. Helena what to do. I wouldn't presume to > advise the residents of another country how to organise their > affairs, so why do they think we care what they think we should > do? There are plenty of problems in South Africa so perhaps he > should concentrate his efforts on sorting out his own country's > problems and leave us to sort out ours. Good on yer cobber! Of course the writer is free to write any ill- informed opinion that he wishes, and similarly you are free to express your opinion that he is an ignorant interfering idiot. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From IrvingDylan at aol.com Mon Jan 14 11:21:02 2008 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Mon Jan 14 11:21:34 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] But hey St Helena FM Message-ID: Please, guys ... help, please! After trying my all but 69-year-old hardest to want to understand, along with other correspondents to the pages of Too Many Birthdays blitzing the printers this coming Battle of Britain Day, what Governor Gurr wants to tell folk about Ascension - a gemini-of-an island waiting to twin with St Helena in the remote tropical waters of the South Atlantic - please guys, is there an independent biog of His Excellency you can send me by e-mail? A biog able to answer such questions as to whether or not English is Governor Gurr's first language? After all, his family name is French. His ancestors were guerriers - 1066 foot soldiers following in William-the-Conqueror's invading sandprints landing to plough up the Sussex beaches to defeat the Brits at the Battle of Hastings ? and it doesn't escape this hack's sense of imagination how one or more of your island guv's ancestors lives on in his genes to hold a Gurr grudge for the final indignity dealt to their defeated, exiled and soon deceased Boney by a missionary priest on St Helena clipping and pickling for posterity their French emperor's balls. "Bollocks!" exclaims Cressroads? Henry Reginald Harwood, similarly rising-69, but with the wit to be prescribed testosterone jabs to maintain his vitality, while the threat of impotence is ever present for this town's hack given a daily 0.5mgdosage of Bendrofumethiazide to double as treatment for checking in on his blood pressure and water retention. Who cares? Mostly, Irv prays, his Princess Helena - yes, guys, Helena - without whose tender loving care and wish to accompany her geriatric commoner on his upcoming voyage to your homeland aboard the RMS St Helena, Cressroads' town hack would not look forward to coming of age this October 19 - or next! Please come back to me soonest, Mike Irving Founding editor of Outdoor Canada magazine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080114/e4468231/attachment.htm From cplowe at mchsi.com Mon Jan 14 13:10:14 2008 From: cplowe at mchsi.com (C. Pamela Lowe-Hoyte, MD) Date: Mon Jan 14 13:10:43 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? References: Message-ID: <002b01c856a6$6bbf5400$6601a8c0@pampc> Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook?We did not put you on the list so cannot take you off. When you joined the list there were instrucftions about how to "unsubscribe." You need to do that yourself. Sorry you did not like our banter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Myburgh To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:57 AM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Then please take me off Thanks Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: 14 January 2008 08:54 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? No way of stopping it. If you are on a mailing list then you're on the mailing list for everything. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Mon Jan 14 05:48:44 2008 Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? God day all Please don't send my all the mail's that you guys are sending around. Will appreciate Have a nice day. Jan Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island's Information Office of the Chief Secretary - who's dat? - on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday's next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ' . UK has made it very clear that right of abode' (on Ascension Island) 'and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,' His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent's full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as 'tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ' . Ascension is not that sort of island' - begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? - 'it is not that sort of society' - or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? - ' and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.' Er, no! Cressroads' town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn't a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You'll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ' . those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think - Don't, Guv! Don't go there! - 'quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.' Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook - and there's plenty more of the same reported in the Independent - loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria's British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today's reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. 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In-Reply-To: References: <8CA2466ABB17205-80C-19E8@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CA24CC81CB38D9-8A4-2B47@Webmail-mg20.sysops.aol.com> To unsubscribe please send a blank email to: list-leave@sthelena.se ? and answer the confirm mail. Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. he S:t Helena Mailing List o unsubscribe please send a email to: ist-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -----Original Message----- From: Jan Myburgh To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:48 pm Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? God day all ? Please don?t send my all the mail?s that you guys are sending around. ? Will appreciate ? Have a nice day. ? Jan ? Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27?11?564?0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island?s Information Office of the Chief Secretary ? who?s dat? ? on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday?s next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ? ? UK has made it very clear that right of abode? (on Ascension Island) ?and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,? His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. ? You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent?s full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as ?tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ?? ? ? Ascension is not that sort of island? ? begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? ? ?it is not that sort of society? ? or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? ? ? and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.? ?? Er, no! Cressroads? town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn?t a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv!? And great! You?ll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ?? ? ? those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think ? Don?t, Guv! Don?t go there! ? ?quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.? ?? Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook ? and there?s plenty more of the same reported in the Independent ? loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria?s British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. ?? Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today?s reigning Queen Elizabeth 11????? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. 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The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -----Original Message----- From: Jan Myburgh To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:48 pm Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? God day all Please don't send my all the mail's that you guys are sending around. Will appreciate Have a nice day. Jan Jan Myburgh Senior FM Field Technician OMNIBRIDGE Tel: +27 11 564 0600 Fax: +27 11 564 0624 Mobile: +27 82 466 3387 jan.myburgh@omnibridge.com www.ci-omnibridge.com ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se ] On Behalf Of prporter1@aim.com Sent: 14 January 2008 03:48 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Has Gurr ever been to the Island before, or is this his first time? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bowmer To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? Agreed. Send him home to run a Job Centre! -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sun Jan 13 21:52:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Can Anyone Translate From Gurr's Gobbledegook? ...GURR TO VISIT ASCENSION splashes the St Helena Independent, running a press release from the island's Information Office of the Chief Secretary - who's dat? - on page 3, before asking its patient readers to turn lst Friday's next 23 pages to read: Governor About Ascension ' ... UK has made it very clear that right of abode' (on Ascension Island) 'and right of ownership of property is not there, not up for grabs,' His Excellency momentarily drops any complicated diplomatic way with the mother tongue to lapse into the vernacular of the Brown Administration in London. You can withstand another paragraph more of the same? Here goes! As played back in the Independent's full-page report of its sister FM radio station interviewing silver-haired as well as 'tached, small-framed, more-red-faced-than-tanned, bespectacled Governor Gurr. ' ... Ascension is not that sort of island' - begging the unasked question: Is St Helena? - 'it is not that sort of society' - or, again; Guv: Is St Helena? - ' and so we have a society that is a kind of, well, it is definitely superior to a labour camp, but you know what I mean when I say that people are there to work rather than live their lives.' Er, no! Cressroads' town hack back in Hampshire, England hasn't a clue what you are raving on about. Sorry, Guv! And great! You'll give it a second shot at explaining better what you mean? ' ... those on Ascension have to live their lives while they are working and it is infinitely preferable that they are going to be properly represented in doing so, but we would be quite wrong, I think - Don't, Guv! Don't go there! - 'quite wrong, I think, if we began to look upon Ascension as being an island community in the way that it is.' Fact is, Governor Gobbledegook - and there's plenty more of the same reported in the Independent - loses those who, unlike me, have a first-hand knowledge of what is afoot on both South Atlantic Ocean islands left reeling from the age of Queen Victoria's British Empire to number next among the spoils of America Rules the Waves. Or hands up those at home or in the few remaining colonial outposts in a world once mostly coloured red for Queen Victoria, who remember collecting the glorious, oversize tropical South Atlantic postage stamps celebrating the royal weddings through to that of today's reigning Queen Elizabeth 11? ********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/b10a8b91/attachment.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Tue Jan 15 13:18:45 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Tue Jan 15 12:19:24 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator In-Reply-To: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> Message-ID: <478CB2B5.16496.80DC57@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 15 Jan 2008 at 0:46, John Ekwall wrote: > This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an > inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will > have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. I am sorry John, but the above is most unclear. Do you mean that the list is being closed down and another is being created with a different name, or what? Do you mean "invitation"? Do we need to resubscribe to some different address? Are you continuing to be the moderator? Please be definite! Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From jones_lisa at bah.com Tue Jan 15 12:40:26 2008 From: jones_lisa at bah.com (Jones, Lisa [USA]) Date: Tue Jan 15 12:44:28 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> <478CB2B5.16496.80DC57@thomas.flyingkettle.com> Message-ID: John, I agree with Thomas. also why is the list closing? Hopefully not because of those dull bores that complain about getting email from a list they signed up for!! I enjoy reading all the posts, even the banter and if it bothers me i certainly have a delete button close at hand. I certainly hope that there will continue to be a St. Helena chat list going forward. Lisa Jones ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of Thomas Goodey Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 7:18 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator On 15 Jan 2008 at 0:46, John Ekwall wrote: > This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an > inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will > have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. I am sorry John, but the above is most unclear. Do you mean that the list is being closed down and another is being created with a different name, or what? Do you mean "invitation"? Do we need to resubscribe to some different address? Are you continuing to be the moderator? Please be definite! Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 4633 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/8e4adf54/attachment.bin From cplowe at mchsi.com Tue Jan 15 14:15:50 2008 From: cplowe at mchsi.com (C. Pamela Lowe-Hoyte, MD) Date: Tue Jan 15 14:32:33 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA><478CB2B5.16496.80DC57@thomas.flyingkettle.com> Message-ID: <005f01c85778$bfc01df0$6601a8c0@pampc> Thank you Lisa. I agree. I find particularly amazing those folk who join the list then demand that we take them off when it is not to their liking. I am grateful to John for hosting us and hope he will continue to do so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones, Lisa [USA]" To: ; "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:40 AM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator John, I agree with Thomas. also why is the list closing? Hopefully not because of those dull bores that complain about getting email from a list they signed up for!! I enjoy reading all the posts, even the banter and if it bothers me i certainly have a delete button close at hand. I certainly hope that there will continue to be a St. Helena chat list going forward. Lisa Jones ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of Thomas Goodey Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 7:18 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator On 15 Jan 2008 at 0:46, John Ekwall wrote: > This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an > inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will > have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. I am sorry John, but the above is most unclear. Do you mean that the list is being closed down and another is being created with a different name, or what? Do you mean "invitation"? Do we need to resubscribe to some different address? Are you continuing to be the moderator? Please be definite! Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this > size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From joocee at btopenworld.com Tue Jan 15 14:39:55 2008 From: joocee at btopenworld.com (JULIET COTTAM) Date: Tue Jan 15 14:43:35 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator In-Reply-To: <005f01c85778$bfc01df0$6601a8c0@pampc> References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA><478CB2B5.16496.80DC57@thomas.flyingkettle.com> <005f01c85778$bfc01df0$6601a8c0@pampc> Message-ID: <478CB7AB.8030004@btopenworld.com> I would like to join in my thanks to John for hosting the St..H. website - I will have withdrawal symptoms if it closed. But rest assured I will continue to be an avid reader. There has been rather a lot of rubbish - indeed, gobbley gook on it recently - leave the new Governor alone - he is only weeks into a difficult job. Good luck to him, and to John- also Happy New year to all those on the list - Juliet. C. Pamela Lowe-Hoyte, MD wrote: > Thank you Lisa. I agree. I find particularly amazing those folk who > join the list then demand that we take them off when it is not to > their liking. > I am grateful to John for hosting us and hope he will continue to do so. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones, Lisa [USA]" > > To: ; "All about St. Helena - The Island in > the South Atlantic(Eng)" > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:40 AM > Subject: RE: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator > > > John, I agree with Thomas. > also why is the list closing? Hopefully not because of those dull > bores that complain about getting email from a list they signed up > for!! I enjoy reading all the posts, even the banter and if it > bothers me i certainly have a delete button close at hand. > > I certainly hope that there will continue to be a St. Helena chat list > going forward. > > Lisa Jones > > ________________________________ > > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of Thomas Goodey > Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 7:18 AM > To: list@sthelena.se > Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator > > > > On 15 Jan 2008 at 0:46, John Ekwall wrote: > >> This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an >> inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will >> have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. > > I am sorry John, but the above is most unclear. Do you mean that the > list is being closed down and another is being created with a > different name, or what? Do you mean "invitation"? Do we need to > resubscribe to some different address? Are you continuing to be the > moderator? Please be definite! > > Thomas Goodey > > ************************************ > In the beginning God created > Man. Dissatisfied on inspection > of His creature, He exclaimed > "Heck, I can do better than that!" > Whereupon He created Woman. > Robert Heinlein > ************************************* > > > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below > this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below >> this size. >> The S:t Helena Mailing List >> To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below > this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > From prporter1 at aim.com Tue Jan 15 15:38:08 2008 From: prporter1 at aim.com (prporter1@aim.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 15:38:46 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator In-Reply-To: References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> <478CB2B5.16496.80DC57@thomas.flyingkettle.com> Message-ID: <8CA259B61648ED5-370-129D@WEBMAIL-MA21.sysops.aol.com> Why is it closing? -----Original Message----- From: Jones, Lisa [USA] To: thomas@flyingkettle.com; All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 4:40 am Subject: RE: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator John, I agree with Thomas. also why is the list closing? Hopefully not because of those dull bores that complain about getting email from a list they signed up for!! I enjoy reading all the posts, even the banter and if it bothers me i certainly have a delete button close at hand. I certainly hope that there will continue to be a St. Helena chat list going forward. Lisa Jones ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of Thomas Goodey Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 7:18 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator On 15 Jan 2008 at 0:46, John Ekwall wrote: > This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an > inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will > have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. I am sorry John, but the above is most unclear. Do you mean that the list is being closed down and another is being created with a different name, or what? Do you mean "invitation"? Do we need to resubscribe to some different address? 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/45081b2d/attachment.htm From Ychrist at aol.com Tue Jan 15 16:35:57 2008 From: Ychrist at aol.com (Ychrist@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 16:36:37 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator Message-ID: Dear John, I am one of those silent readers. Thank you for keeping this list alive. I will wait to learn what your message means, i.e., if this one is shutting down and a new one starting up. Best wishes for 2008. I hope it is a year filled with discoveries that delight and I hope that it is a year that brings you health, happiness and peace. Yvette Christians? Yvette Christians? Assoc. Professor English & Literary Studies, Fordham University Dealy Hall, 441 E. Fordham Rd Bronx, NY 10458 Tel: 718 817 4005? Fax 718 817 4010 E-mail: Ychrist@aol.com And Visiting Professor Princeton University Program in Creative & Performing Arts (Sept 07-Feb 08) ychristi@princeton.edu http://web.mac.com/ychrist and http://www.jhfc.duke.edu/fhi/events/residencies/index.php http://www.bookrounds.com ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/8c8e257e/attachment.htm From takkies at mighty.co.za Tue Jan 15 16:37:46 2008 From: takkies at mighty.co.za (Rob G) Date: Tue Jan 15 16:38:17 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator In-Reply-To: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> Message-ID: <003901c8578c$957b8fc0$c072af40$@co.za> Hi all, It's my understanding that the mailing list in its current form requires much monitoring and back office management. John is saying that the developments of mailing lists have improved over the years and he now wants to migrate us across to a better platform. He also assures us that although this listing will cease soon, the new system will be sending invitations out to us all (so we shouldn't be worried or concerned at all). Oh, and a Happy New year to you all! J RobG From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of John Ekwall Sent: 15 January 2008 01:47 AM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator Hi, There has been a lot of works with mailinglist during the years. This group will cease in a very short time but you will have an inventation for a new one very soon Finally www.sthelena.se will have a new Internet Provider and with more space very soon. John Ekwall, Moderator of list@sthelena.se -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/88637fb1/attachment.htm From Ychrist at aol.com Tue Jan 15 16:40:29 2008 From: Ychrist at aol.com (Ychrist@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 16:41:06 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator Message-ID: Thanks Rob. Yvette Yvette Christians? Assoc. Professor English & Literary Studies, Fordham University Dealy Hall, 441 E. Fordham Rd Bronx, NY 10458 Tel: 718 817 4005? Fax 718 817 4010 E-mail: Ychrist@aol.com And Visiting Professor Princeton University Program in Creative & Performing Arts (Sept 07-Feb 08) ychristi@princeton.edu http://web.mac.com/ychrist and http://www.jhfc.duke.edu/fhi/events/residencies/index.php http://www.bookrounds.com ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/4b1d7967/attachment.htm From Cwh999 at aol.com Tue Jan 15 17:03:05 2008 From: Cwh999 at aol.com (Cwh999@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 17:04:55 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Too many emails Message-ID: I signed up for your mailing list yesterday. So far I have received 5 emails directed to you questioning the changes that are being made and are going to your entire list. I understand the changes and I just got here. There needs to be a clearer explanation sent out to your entire list. Meanwhile please remove me from your list until you have completed the changes. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/f28445fd/attachment.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Tue Jan 15 18:07:48 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Tue Jan 15 17:08:41 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator In-Reply-To: <003901c8578c$957b8fc0$c072af40$@co.za> References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA>, <003901c8578c$957b8fc0$c072af40$@co.za> Message-ID: <478CF674.12423.1897F3A@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 15 Jan 2008 at 17:37, Rob G wrote: > John is saying that the developments of mailing lists have > improved over the years and he now wants to migrate us across to a > better platform. He also assures us that although this listing > will cease soon, the new system will be sending invitations out to > us all (so we shouldn't be worried or concerned at all). That all sounds fair enough. Is it official from you? and why didn't the moderator tell us himself? Cwh999 said it perfectly just now: "There needs to be a clearer explanation sent out to your entire list." From the management. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From Cwh999 at aol.com Tue Jan 15 17:13:02 2008 From: Cwh999 at aol.com (Cwh999@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 17:13:54 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Too many emails Message-ID: I signed up for your mailing list yesterday and received 5 emails questioning the changes. They are going out to your entire list. I understand the changes and I just got here. Please send a clearer explanation and remove me from your list until the changes have been completed. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/bf9740c0/attachment.htm From Herbote at aol.com Tue Jan 15 17:13:57 2008 From: Herbote at aol.com (Herbote@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 17:14:29 2008 Subject: explaination - Re: [STHELENA] URGENT from Moderator Message-ID: hi folks, greetings from Germany, so please accept my non-perfect English. However, it is obvious there is some kind of planed simple technical change, John will move the group from A to B and he informed about this in advance. So we will receive an invitation from the new newsgroup host pr provider after moving the website and group to the new server. Maybe it was a "mistake" to have done it too early and now "everybody" here is jumping like crazy or he simply did not inform us about all technical background information, which we also do not need to know. His information simply was not complete. So, please let stopp this communication and lets give John and his technicans and provider the time to move and when (because of mailing list / legal reasons) we need to apply for subscription again, we will receive an invitation. Best regards to everybody. Burkhard Herbote _www.WorldTourismDirectory.com_ (http://www.WorldTourismDirectory.com) In einer eMail vom 15.01.2008 17:09:11 Westeurop?ische Normalzeit schreibt thomas@flyingkettle.com: > John is saying that the developments of mailing lists have > improved over the years and he now wants to migrate us across to a > better platform. He also assures us that although this listing > will cease soon, the new system will be sending invitations out to > us all (so we shouldn't be worried or concerned at all). That all sounds fair enough. Is it official from you? and why didn't the moderator tell us himself? Cwh999 said it perfectly just now: "There needs to be a clearer explanation sent out to your entire list." From the management. Thomas Goodey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/18eb3bff/attachment.htm From Cwh999 at aol.com Tue Jan 15 17:25:11 2008 From: Cwh999 at aol.com (Cwh999@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 15 17:26:05 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Second email Message-ID: Sorry for the repeat email. I thought the first one bounced because of the stated size limit. I received another 3 emails after it sent it. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080115/23290582/attachment.htm From john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se Tue Jan 15 19:19:20 2008 From: john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se (John Ekwall) Date: Tue Jan 15 23:08:27 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT - follow up References: <001e01c85707$c697bdc0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA>, <003901c8578c$957b8fc0$c072af40$@co.za> <478CF674.12423.1897F3A@thomas.flyingkettle.com> Message-ID: <001a01c857a3$2706ec30$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> Hi again, As Burkhard just explained - change of Internet Provider means a physical change of the host-computer. I have been a true customer, since 1996, to kulturservern.se (which host the domainname sthelena.se) - in late 2006 the company was transferred into a new company. Our mailing-list (list@sthelena.se) is connected to this new company as it is connected with sthelena.se. Last January I wrote to you about ceasing the list as it took too much time and was quite expensive for me. Most of you pursuaded me to continue - which I did. Starting in late November 2007 I have been in negotiation with the company regarding its service - both sthelena.se and the mailing-list. Almost every day "I clean" the list from Spam-attacks - roughly 10 minutes. Cleaning means I defer (not accepting) mail by mail. Lack of tools for the moderator of the list was one important factor that couldn't be solve unless I changed to their new servers (another 150 USD a year) then I could have their support. Baring this in mind - I contacted my other Internet Provider - having my domains of joesweden.info and rolands-art.org. I could half the cost and - more important - upgrade to 1000 Mb - (still have more for you on St Helena and Tristan da Cunha regarding images) - limit today is just 210 Mb. But their was one obstacle - the mailing-list - which the new provider don't have. I've been in contact with Yahoo-groups for a re-establishment of the group "sthelena" (which I already started back in 2000 as a back-up for the existing mailing-list (connected to sthelena.se) but I still lack the moderator's tools and can't access this group (just as a member). A summary: In just a few days a new company will provide access to the domain www.sthelena.se and this can (I am not sure yet) automatically means that the mailing-list will be closed. The link on the webpage to the mailinglist was closed on Monday at 2300 UTC, so Cwh999 at aol.com was probably the last one to be member. I hope I can give you more details about the mailing-list asap. John Ekwall Coordinator - sthelena.se Moderator - list at sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer Message-ID: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> What a shame you paid for the hosting already! It seems a touch expensive compared to tdbinternet.com. There are several ways forward here which I throw out to the general population. One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin board\blog. This would enable people to post to various topics with attachment (photos, video etc). Also a "public" front end about St Helena could be placed. We have pioneered an easy to use AJAX system which means if you can use a word processor you can have an AJAX web site. Have a look at www.tdbcomputing.com (my company), www.tdbinternet.com, www.junofieldimages com for an idea of what I am talking about. People would register (free) for the bulletin board and this means as moderator you only have to consider vetting people wanting to join. PhpBB3 (http://www.phpbb.com/) is extremely impressive and would get people chatting and posting. Otherwise I can sort out list management software - but with the advent of good BB stuff this is a little old hat. My offer still stands! Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080116/983a06c8/attachment.htm From Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp Wed Jan 16 13:15:01 2008 From: Bob.Bowmer at int.sc.mufg.jp (Bob Bowmer) Date: Wed Jan 16 13:15:38 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer In-Reply-To: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> Message-ID: Sounds good Jim We could still retain John as our long-serving moderator I presume ? Onto things related to the site - does anyone know if it is permitted for civilians (ie. me) to stay on Ascension island for a couple of months ? I note that there is a hotel there but is rented self-catering accommodation available outside the bases ? Bob -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: 16 January 2008 12:01 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer What a shame you paid for the hosting already! It seems a touch expensive compared to tdbinternet.com. There are several ways forward here which I throw out to the general population. One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin board\blog. This would enable people to post to various topics with attachment (photos, video etc). Also a "public" front end about St Helena could be placed. We have pioneered an easy to use AJAX system which means if you can use a word processor you can have an AJAX web site. Have a look at www.tdbcomputing.com (my company), www.tdbinternet.com, www.junofieldimages.com for an idea of what I am talking about. People would register (free) for the bulletin board and this means as moderator you only have to consider vetting people wanting to join. PhpBB3 (http://www.phpbb.com/) is extremely impressive and would get people chatting and posting. Otherwise I can sort out list management software - but with the advent of good BB stuff this is a little old hat. My offer still stands! Jim *********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. The Information is not to be construed as an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security, instrument or investment. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080116/b2762f34/attachment.htm From jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk Wed Jan 16 13:27:30 2008 From: jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk (Jim Elliott) Date: Wed Jan 16 13:28:04 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer References: Message-ID: <478DF831.000001.03432@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> Of course John would continue - if he wants to. One other advantage is he can other moderators to help if he wants. You question is a great reason for a BB (which is searchable) as it is one of those questions that has probably been asked before. -------Original Message------- From: Bob Bowmer Date: 16/01/2008 12:16:07 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer Sounds good Jim We could still retain John as our long-serving moderator I presume ? Onto things related to the site - does anyone know if it is permitted for civilians (ie. me) to stay on Ascension island for a couple of months ? I note that there is a hotel there but is rented self-catering accommodation available outside the bases ? Bob -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: 16 January 2008 12:01 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer What a shame you paid for the hosting already! It seems a touch expensive compared to tdbinternet.com. There are several ways forward here which I throw out to the general population. One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin board\blog. This would enable people to post to various topics with attachment (photos, video etc). Also a "public" front end about St Helena could be placed. We have pioneered an easy to use AJAX system which means if you can use a word processor you can have an AJAX web site. Have a look at www.tdbcomputing.com (my company), www.tdbinternet.com, www.junofieldimages com for an idea of what I am talking about. People would register (free) for the bulletin board and this means as moderator you only have to consider vetting people wanting to join. PhpBB3 (http://www.phpbb.com/) is extremely impressive and would get people chatting and posting. Otherwise I can sort out list management software - but with the advent of good BB stuff this is a little old hat. My offer still stands! Jim *********************************************************** Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International plc ("MUSI") is registered in England, company number 1698498, registered office at 6 Broadgate, London EC2M 2AA, and is part of the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. MUSI is authorised and regulated in the UK by The Financial Services Authority Limited (FSA). The information contained herein or attached hereto has been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable but we do not represent that it is accurate or complete and is not to be viewed as a 'personal recommendation' within the meaning of the FSA rules. 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Derald Nye ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ekwall To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT - follow up Hi again, As Burkhard just explained - change of Internet Provider means a physical change of the host-computer. I have been a true customer, since 1996, to kulturservern.se (which host the domainname sthelena.se) - in late 2006 the company was transferred into a new company. Our mailing-list (list@sthelena.se) is connected to this new company as it is connected with sthelena.se. Last January I wrote to you about ceasing the list as it took too much time and was quite expensive for me. Most of you pursuaded me to continue - which I did. Starting in late November 2007 I have been in negotiation with the company regarding its service - both sthelena.se and the mailing-list. Almost every day "I clean" the list from Spam-attacks - roughly 10 minutes. Cleaning means I defer (not accepting) mail by mail. Lack of tools for the moderator of the list was one important factor that couldn't be solve unless I changed to their new servers (another 150 USD a year) then I could have their support. Baring this in mind - I contacted my other Internet Provider - having my domains of joesweden.info and rolands-art.org. I could half the cost and - more important - upgrade to 1000 Mb - (still have more for you on St Helena and Tristan da Cunha regarding images) - limit today is just 210 Mb. But their was one obstacle - the mailing-list - which the new provider don't have. I've been in contact with Yahoo-groups for a re-establishment of the group "sthelena" (which I already started back in 2000 as a back-up for the existing mailing-list (connected to sthelena.se) but I still lack the moderator's tools and can't access this group (just as a member). A summary: In just a few days a new company will provide access to the domain www.sthelena.se and this can (I am not sure yet) automatically means that the mailing-list will be closed. The link on the webpage to the mailinglist was closed on Monday at 2300 UTC, so Cwh999 at aol.com was probably the last one to be member. I hope I can give you more details about the mailing-list asap. John Ekwall Coordinator - sthelena.se Moderator - list at sthelena.se Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Derald Nye ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ekwall To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: [STHELENA] URGENT - follow up Hi again, As Burkhard just explained - change of Internet Provider means a physical change of the host-computer. I have been a true customer, since 1996, to kulturservern.se (which host the domainname sthelena.se) - in late 2006 the company was transferred into a new company. Our mailing-list (list@sthelena.se) is connected to this new company as it is connected with sthelena.se. Last January I wrote to you about ceasing the list as it took too much time and was quite expensive for me. Most of you pursuaded me to continue - which I did. Starting in late November 2007 I have been in negotiation with the company regarding its service - both sthelena.se and the mailing-list. Almost every day "I clean" the list from Spam-attacks - roughly 10 minutes. Cleaning means I defer (not accepting) mail by mail. Lack of tools for the moderator of the list was one important factor that couldn't be solve unless I changed to their new servers (another 150 USD a year) then I could have their support. Baring this in mind - I contacted my other Internet Provider - having my domains of joesweden.info and rolands-art.org. I could half the cost and - more important - upgrade to 1000 Mb - (still have more for you on St Helena and Tristan da Cunha regarding images) - limit today is just 210 Mb. But their was one obstacle - the mailing-list - which the new provider don't have. I've been in contact with Yahoo-groups for a re-establishment of the group "sthelena" (which I already started back in 2000 as a back-up for the existing mailing-list (connected to sthelena.se) but I still lack the moderator's tools and can't access this group (just as a member). A summary: In just a few days a new company will provide access to the domain www.sthelena.se and this can (I am not sure yet) automatically means that the mailing-list will be closed. The link on the webpage to the mailinglist was closed on Monday at 2300 UTC, so Cwh999 at aol.com was probably the last one to be member. I hope I can give you more details about the mailing-list asap. John Ekwall Coordinator - sthelena.se Moderator - list at sthelena.se Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. 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All the best Terry Herbert DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, Australia _____ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:15 PM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer Sounds good Jim We could still retain John as our long-serving moderator I presume ? Onto things related to the site - does anyone know if it is permitted for civilians (ie. me) to stay on Ascension island for a couple of months ? I note that there is a hotel there but is rented self-catering accommodation available outside the bases ? Bob -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: 16 January 2008 12:01 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer What a shame you paid for the hosting already! It seems a touch expensive compared to tdbinternet.com. There are several ways forward here which I throw out to the general population. One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin board\blog. This would enable people to post to various topics with attachment (photos, video etc). Also a "public" front end about St Helena could be placed. We have pioneered an easy to use AJAX system which means if you can use a word processor you can have an AJAX web site. Have a look at www.tdbcomputing.com (my company), www.tdbinternet.com, www.junofieldimages.com for an idea of what I am talking about. People would register (free) for the bulletin board and this means as moderator you only have to consider vetting people wanting to join. PhpBB3 (http://www.phpbb.com/) is extremely impressive and would get people chatting and posting. Otherwise I can sort out list management software - but with the advent of good BB stuff this is a little old hat. My offer still stands! 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/e1b5679f/attachment.htm From prporter1 at aim.com Thu Jan 17 03:42:31 2008 From: prporter1 at aim.com (prporter1@aim.com) Date: Thu Jan 17 03:43:05 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer In-Reply-To: <200801162149.m0GLnaO5020816@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <8CA26C9BDCB0875-11D8-20D5@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com> Is that typically how it's done? -----Original Message----- From: Terry Herbert To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 2:49 pm Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 0.000000 ; I don?t know how long you?d be able to stay on Ascension Island, Bob. Anyone wishing to do even visit the island apply to the Administrator for permission to set foot there. ? All the best ? Terry Herbert ???????? DONCASTER EAST VIC 3109, ????????? Australia ? ? From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Bob Bowmer Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:15 PM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer ? Sounds good Jim ? We could still retain John? as our long-serving moderator I presume ? ? Onto things related to the site - does anyone know if it is permitted for civilians (ie. me) to stay on Ascension island for a couple of months ? I note that there is a hotel there but is rented self-catering accommodation available outside the bases ? ? Bob -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: 16 January 2008 12:01 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer What a shame you paid for the hosting already! It seems a touch expensive compared to tdbinternet.com. ? There are several ways forward here which I throw out to the general population. One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin board\blog. This would enable people to post to various topics with attachment (photos, video etc). Also a "public" front end about St Helena could be placed. We have pioneered an easy to use AJAX system which means if you can use a word processor you can have an AJAX web site. Have a look at www.tdbcomputing.com (my company), www.tdbinternet.com, www.junofieldimages.com for an idea of what I am talking about. ? People would register (free) for the bulletin board and this means as moderator you only have to consider vetting people wanting to join. ? PhpBB3 (http://www.phpbb.com/) is extremely impressive and would get people chatting and posting. ? Otherwise I can sort out list management software - but with the advent of good BB stuff this is a little old hat. ? My offer still stands! ? ? 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Steve From john at burghhouse.com Thu Jan 17 13:53:45 2008 From: john at burghhouse.com (John Turner) Date: Thu Jan 17 13:54:33 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer In-Reply-To: <478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> References: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> <478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be suited to that. JT John Turner Director, Burgh House Limited Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Steve Wyles Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer Jim Elliott wrote: One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin > board\blog. One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with most people using standard dial-up access. Steve Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. __________ NOD32 2800 (20080117) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From jones_lisa at bah.com Thu Jan 17 14:01:32 2008 From: jones_lisa at bah.com (Jones, Lisa [USA]) Date: Thu Jan 17 14:03:28 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer References: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6><478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: It is cheaper here by half in the US but still, I don't pay for it. I use the dial up as well. (at home that is) I think a field trip of St Helena Listers should be coordinated to come to St Helena. JT, you hosting us? :-) ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of John Turner Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 7:53 AM To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be suited to that. JT John Turner Director, Burgh House Limited Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Steve Wyles Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer Jim Elliott wrote: One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin > board\blog. One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with most people using standard dial-up access. 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JT, you hosting us? :-) _____ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of John Turner Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 7:53 AM To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be suited to that. JT John Turner Director, Burgh House Limited Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Steve Wyles Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer Jim Elliott wrote: One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin > board\blog. One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with most people using standard dial-up access. Steve Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5646 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/295c33b7/winmail.bin From joocee at btopenworld.com Thu Jan 17 16:23:22 2008 From: joocee at btopenworld.com (JULIET COTTAM) Date: Thu Jan 17 16:27:05 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer In-Reply-To: References: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6><478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: <478F72EA.2000200@btopenworld.com> What a good idea Lisa - I'll be the first on the travelling list - when shall we book the RMS. for ? Juliet. Jones, Lisa [USA] wrote: > It is cheaper here by half in the US but still, I don't pay for it. I use the dial up as well. (at home that is) > > I think a field trip of St Helena Listers should be coordinated to come to St Helena. > JT, you hosting us? :-) > > ________________________________ > > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of John Turner > Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 7:53 AM > To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' > Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer > > > > And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade > Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be > considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these > prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the > foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be > suited to that. > > JT > > John Turner > Director, Burgh House Limited > Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 > Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena > (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South > Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) > Tel: +290 3235 > > NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are > confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, > and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else > is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the > intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of > this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly > delete the communication. Thank you. > Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf > Of Steve Wyles > Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27 > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer > > Jim Elliott wrote: > One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin > >> board\blog. >> > > One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or > post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with > most people using standard dial-up access. > > Steve > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this > size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > __________ NOD32 2800 (20080117) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From jones_lisa at bah.com Thu Jan 17 16:28:45 2008 From: jones_lisa at bah.com (Jones, Lisa [USA]) Date: Thu Jan 17 16:32:59 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer References: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6><478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> <478F72EA.2000200@btopenworld.com> Message-ID: well, that depends upon the location of those who want to travel and their availability of funds. i've checked it out, its a little pricy but doable. so you want an 8 to 15 month lead time for planning a group trip. That would include preparing the pkg to offer, offering to a group and waiting for responses, time for monthly pymts coordinating with travel agencies, final docs etc, passports for those who may not already have one, visas if necessary and then the travel. which from what i saw, you really need to have about a minimum of 3 weeks vacation time to go as getting there and back are about 1 week each way. i'm game if anyone else is game!!! and i have a cousin that would like to go too. we have an ancestors grave to look up! :-) she's there somewhere. Lisa ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of JULIET COTTAM Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 10:23 AM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer What a good idea Lisa - I'll be the first on the travelling list - when shall we book the RMS. for ? Juliet. Jones, Lisa [USA] wrote: > It is cheaper here by half in the US but still, I don't pay for it. I use the dial up as well. (at home that is) > > I think a field trip of St Helena Listers should be coordinated to come to St Helena. > JT, you hosting us? :-) > > ________________________________ > > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of John Turner > Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 7:53 AM > To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' > Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer > > > > And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade > Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be > considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these > prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the > foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be > suited to that. > > JT > > John Turner > Director, Burgh House Limited > Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 > Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena > (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South > Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) > Tel: +290 3235 > > NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are > confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, > and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else > is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the > intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of > this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on > it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly > delete the communication. Thank you. > Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf > Of Steve Wyles > Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27 > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer > > Jim Elliott wrote: > One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin > >> board\blog. >> > > One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or > post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with > most people using standard dial-up access. > > Steve > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this > size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > __________ NOD32 2800 (20080117) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7508 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/989793c3/attachment.bin From john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se Thu Jan 17 17:36:08 2008 From: john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se (John Ekwall) Date: Thu Jan 17 17:37:00 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailinglist-cool down! Message-ID: <002301c85927$21185ae0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> Dear subscribers, There will be no change on this list the coming days! However it will have a new "design" meaning a bulletin-board system. I will inform you in due time about the changeover. Please- don't reply to this message - start a new topic instead! Your moderator John Ekwall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/4f60b820/attachment.htm From sthelena at inhouse.co.uk Thu Jan 17 18:23:05 2008 From: sthelena at inhouse.co.uk (Steve Wyles) Date: Thu Jan 17 18:23:21 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailinglist-cool down! In-Reply-To: <002301c85927$21185ae0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> References: <002301c85927$21185ae0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> Message-ID: <478F8EF9.9010507@inhouse.co.uk> John Ekwall wrote: > However it will have a new "design" meaning a bulletin-board system. If you are meaning a web based BB system, Then that is very bad news for the subscribers on the island who are using dial-up access. The whole advantage of email lists is that postings, submissions and replies to postings can be handled off-line without access cost to the subscriber. Web based systems require the user to be online the whole time they are reading and replying. If there is a problem with the hosting of the current email based list, there are a couple of places that I can run it from. Steve From prporter1 at aim.com Thu Jan 17 18:44:18 2008 From: prporter1 at aim.com (prporter1@aim.com) Date: Thu Jan 17 18:44:52 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] My Offer In-Reply-To: <478F72EA.2000200@btopenworld.com> References: <478DF1EB.00000B.05656@JIM-TDB-644A3D6><478F499E.5040205@inhouse.co.uk> <478F72EA.2000200@btopenworld.com> Message-ID: <8CA2747B82518C1-EBC-1653@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> Can you take me, too? -----Original Message----- From: JULIET COTTAM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 8:23 am Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer What a good idea Lisa - I'll be the first on the travelling list - when shall we book the RMS. for ? Juliet.? ? Jones, Lisa [USA] wrote:? > It is cheaper here by half in the US but still, I don't pay for it. I use the dial up as well. (at home that is)? > > I think a field trip of St Helena Listers should be coordinated to come to St Helena.? > JT, you hosting us? :-)? >? > ________________________________? >? > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se on behalf of John Turner? > Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 7:53 AM? > To: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)'? > Subject: RE: [STHELENA] My Offer? >? >? >? > And don't expect that to change quickly, either. The highest-grade? > Broadband package here, which provides a level of service that would be? > considered only as 'basic' in the UK or USA, costs ?120/month. At these? > prices the majority of users will probably stay with dial-up for the? > foreseeable future, so any solution that is to involve islanders must be? > suited to that.? >? > JT? >? > John Turner? > Director, Burgh House Limited? > Registered in St. Helena as company number 32? > Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena? > (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South? > Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ)? > Tel: +290 3235? >? > NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are? > confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission,? > and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else? > is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the? > intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of? > this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on? > it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this? > communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly? > delete the communication. Thank you.? > Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary.? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf? > Of Steve Wyles? > Sent: 17 January 2008 12:27? > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)? > Subject: Re: [STHELENA] My Offer? >? > Jim Elliott wrote:? > One would be to replace the mailing list with a bulletin? > >> board\blog.? >> >? > One of the major issues with web forums is you need to be online to read or? > post to them. Broadband is only just being established on the island, with? > most people using standard dial-up access.? >? > Steve? > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this? > size.? > The S:t Helena Mailing List? > To unsubscribe please send a email to:? > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail.? >? >? > __________ NOD32 2800 (20080117) Information __________? >? > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.? > http://www.eset.com >? >? >? > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size.? > The S:t Helena Mailing List? > To unsubscribe please send a email to:? > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail.? >? >? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------? >? > Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size.? > The S:t Helena Mailing List? > To unsubscribe please send a email to:? > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail.? Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size.? The S:t Helena Mailing List? To unsubscribe please send a email to:? list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail.? ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/f0c4d259/attachment.htm From IrvingDylan at aol.com Thu Jan 17 18:49:16 2008 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Thu Jan 17 18:49:53 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Boney-et-moi? Message-ID: Jim, Bob and John-the-List, Saints preserve me, not least St Helena, if it was something this Hampshire, England town hack messaged in the wake of his previous e-mail asking if anyone can translate Governor Gurr?s gobbledegook that caused the island?s List suddenly to as good as crash Whereas gobbledegook to describe most of what was spouting forth from under so esteemed a colonial pith helmet as His Excellency Gurr?s sparked a lively exchange of e-mail, could it be that mention of Napoleon?s bo****ks in respect of disrespect shown his mortal remains laid to rest in a most unmanly state thanks to a St Helena priest with a mind and knife for anatomical collectibles brought the List down all these years later? No soon did it touch down in Sweden en route to the South Atlantic than we were subjected only to ideas and progress bulletins for the seriously computer-literate to guess or know what may have gone amiss or worse some three days ago. Sorry, if it was all down to Bony-et-moi, Mike Irving -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080117/a8ee0973/attachment.htm From john at burghhouse.com Fri Jan 18 10:13:01 2008 From: john at burghhouse.com (John Turner) Date: Fri Jan 18 10:35:17 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailinglist-cool down! In-Reply-To: <478F8EF9.9010507@inhouse.co.uk> References: <002301c85927$21185ae0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA> <478F8EF9.9010507@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: If the list moves to a bulletin-board I guess that will also be the end of my contributions; not because I have in any way ceased to be interested in this list but simply because I never remember to check bulletin boards. With the list as-is, the messages present themselves to me and I respond to them. If I have to take action to log onto a bulletin board I know I just won't. I'm a member of the stheleaonline bulletin board system and, just thinking about it now, I can't remember when I last logged in. Groups-by-email is a form of 'push' technology, and is so successful because it prompts the user to respond and makes it easy for them to do so. Those with dial-up can arrange to download all the messages at cheap rate, and as long as the messages aren't too big it's not that big an expense. It works. On dial-up a bulletin board page will probably take longer just to load than it takes to download a whole day's messages by email. Hence, I beg: please let's stay with an email-based technology. Regards, John Turner Director, Burgh House Limited Registered in St. Helena as company number 32 Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, Island of St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. Please save trees: only print this email where absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Steve Wyles Sent: 17 January 2008 17:23 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Mailinglist-cool down! John Ekwall wrote: > However it will have a new "design" meaning a bulletin-board system. If you are meaning a web based BB system, Then that is very bad news for the subscribers on the island who are using dial-up access. The whole advantage of email lists is that postings, submissions and replies to postings can be handled off-line without access cost to the subscriber. Web based systems require the user to be online the whole time they are reading and replying. If there is a problem with the hosting of the current email based list, there are a couple of places that I can run it from. Steve Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. __________ NOD32 2804 (20080118) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From thomas at flyingkettle.com Fri Jan 18 12:19:01 2008 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:19:46 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailinglist-cool down! In-Reply-To: References: <002301c85927$21185ae0$d786fc53@TOSHIBA>, <478F8EF9.9010507@inhouse.co.uk>, Message-ID: <47909935.14448.48CB9E@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 18 Jan 2008 at 9:13, John Turner wrote: > Hence, I beg: please let's stay with an email-based technology. Obviously this particular application should be a mailing list. That is what they are for. A bulletin board is quite inappropriate. Thomas Goodey ************************************ In the beginning God created Man. Dissatisfied on inspection of His creature, He exclaimed "Heck, I can do better than that!" Whereupon He created Woman. Robert Heinlein ************************************* From IrvingDylan at aol.com Fri Jan 18 11:36:43 2008 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:37:26 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailinglist Cool Down Message-ID: 10:32 ? When, John, your MailingList Cool Down missive stops me in my writing tracks for planning One Flew into the Cuckoo?s Nest as the working title for the third volume of a trilogy under way in the Word Factory of the Lower House of Windsor here in Cressroads, watercress capital of the Hampshire Kingdom of the Son of Comet. Again, few would disagree with your island thoughts. But, tell me, does your ?Director, Burgh House Limited? sign-off mean you have quit the Bank of St Helena? If so, and if your change of immigrant venture requires any PR/Marketing support in the UK, I would be privileged to afford you my services as a retired Exxon public affairs consultant and special assignments writer for Canada?s Financial Post. ? Mike Irving -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080118/7f75023a/attachment.htm From jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk Fri Jan 18 11:47:35 2008 From: jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk (Jim Elliott) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:48:00 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailing List v Bulletin Boards - Dispelling the Myths Message-ID: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> There seems to be a worry that BBs are slower, well providing they are not very graphical they are not. A standard dial up be fine. It is also possible to email periodically a summary of what has happened on the bulletin board with links. Therefore a quick read is possible. It will also be on superfast servers. Also a technology can be developed where an email is sent to a particular address with the topic in the subject line and it is posted in that way, which should be fine for people who cannot stay on line for more than a minute or so. Bulletin boards are arranged in topics, and one of the options available if you want to mark a topic is have details of the postings to the topic emailed to you. For example a whole discussion about visiting Ascension island is titled "My Offer" as it picked up from a reply to me and had a does anyone know... " in it. One of the major disadvantages with mailing lists pushes is they are so open to spammers. The moderator has already stated it takes him around 15 mins a day every day dealing with the spams. At least with a BB people are registered and the mail server cannot be used to advertise viagra, sex sites or any other junk. John will have his 15 mins back. Hope this helps but in any case a dual system will run for a bit so everyone can see the pros and cons. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080118/2726d77a/attachment-0001.htm From sthelena at inhouse.co.uk Fri Jan 18 18:43:52 2008 From: sthelena at inhouse.co.uk (Steve Wyles) Date: Fri Jan 18 18:44:12 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailing List v Bulletin Boards - Dispelling the Myths In-Reply-To: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> References: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> Message-ID: <4790E558.8010603@inhouse.co.uk> Jim Elliott wrote: > > There seems to be a worry that BBs are slower, well providing they are > not very graphical they are not. A standard dial up be fine. It is also > possible to email periodically a summary of what has happened on the > bulletin board with links. Therefore a quick read is possible. It will > also be on superfast servers. Jim, The problem is not that they are slower, but that you have to be actively connected in order to interact with the forum or BB. Where people pay for their internet access on a per minute basis, keeping that on-line time to a minimum is vital. > One of the major disadvantages with mailing lists pushes is they are so > open to spammers. The moderator has already stated it takes him around > 15 mins a day every day dealing with the spams. At least with a BB > people are registered.... You are also registered with a mailing-list. If a mailing list is configured so it will only accept postings from registered and confirmed email addresses, it immediately cuts out 99.9% of spam. In other words, you can only send to the mailing list if you are registered and only using the email address that you registered with, all other email is immediately rejected. Steve From jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk Fri Jan 18 19:48:09 2008 From: jde at cryptic1.globalnet.co.uk (Jim Elliott) Date: Fri Jan 18 19:51:56 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailing List v Bulletin Boards - Dispelling the Myths References: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> <4790E558.8010603@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: <4790F469.000005.09244@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> As I stated in my email when posts are done to topics emails can be sent out with links, or even the actual post can be sent out by email. When the new generation of BBs were written this was address, so if the board has say 30 topics and you are particularly interested in Travel then you can receive emails about travel. So in many ways it is just an advancement. Although in theory mailing list managers will only accept from registered people the fact that they open the comms port means then can so easily be exploited. Quite a hosting companies now refuse to accommodate them, although mine will allow them but we have to keep a watchful eye. One of our clients was the subject of a spam using the mail port and of course he received the bounced emails - nearly 30,000 in one day. I assume the only people these days who pay per minute of connection are probably on St Helena or somewhere where the Internet is developing rather than established. There are plenty of free access points for USA, Europe and the more developed world. Jim Elliott wrote: > > There seems to be a worry that BBs are slower, well providing they are > not very graphical they are not. A standard dial up be fine. It is also > possible to email periodically a summary of what has happened on the > bulletin board with links. Therefore a quick read is possible. It will > also be on superfast servers. Jim, The problem is not that they are slower, but that you have to be actively connected in order to interact with the forum or BB. Where people pay for their internet access on a per minute basis, keeping that on-line time to a minimum is vital. > One of the major disadvantages with mailing lists pushes is they are so > open to spammers. The moderator has already stated it takes him around > 15 mins a day every day dealing with the spams. At least with a BB > people are registered.... You are also registered with a mailing-list. If a mailing list is configured so it will only accept postings from registered and confirmed email addresses, it immediately cuts out 99.9% of spam. In other words, you can only send to the mailing list if you are registered and only using the email address that you registered with, all other email is immediately rejected. Steve Message limit is 125 kB - so keep your posting including image below this size. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080118/3628ec3a/attachment.htm From rbauer6115 at t-online.de Fri Jan 18 20:12:17 2008 From: rbauer6115 at t-online.de (Reino Bauer) Date: Fri Jan 18 20:12:57 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailing List v Bulletin Boards - Dispelling the Myths In-Reply-To: <4790E558.8010603@inhouse.co.uk> References: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> <4790E558.8010603@inhouse.co.uk> Message-ID: <4790FA11.1060406@bigfoot.com> Hi folks, I don't understand the fuss about a possible change of the list. We are benefiting from this list thanks to somebody who has set it up. And for free! At least for us users. He has made it and it is his right to change or discontinue it at will. Suggestions are OK but not complaints, IMHO. I am sure John Ekwall is doing the best he can. And BTW, its still functioning for now. Peace, Reino Bauer (V)!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20080118/db9b26a7/attachment.htm From sthelena at inhouse.co.uk Fri Jan 18 20:59:08 2008 From: sthelena at inhouse.co.uk (Steve Wyles) Date: Fri Jan 18 20:59:20 2008 Subject: [STHELENA] Mailing List v Bulletin Boards - Dispelling the Myths In-Reply-To: <4790FA11.1060406@bigfoot.com> References: <479083C7.000015.05668@JIM-TDB-644A3D6> <4790E558.8010603@inhouse.co.uk> <4790FA11.1060406@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <4791050C.5030701@inhouse.co.uk> Reino Bauer wrote: > Hi folks, > > I don't understand the fuss about a possible change of the list. My concerns are about the increased cost to the islanders that only have dial-up access (the vast majority of them) if it moves to a web based forum instead of an email list. These costs are from the C&W website: http://www.cw.com/sthelena/products_services/rates/sthel_03_03_01.html Usage Monday ? Friday 6am to 6pm ?0.10 (per minute) Usage Monday ? Friday 6pm to 10pm ?0.07 (per minute) Usage Monday ? Sunday 10pm to 6am ?0.03 (per minute) Usage Saturday/Sunday 6am to 10pm ?0.05 (per minute) This is in addition to the 5.00 per month access fee. We are > benefiting from this list thanks to somebody who has set it up. And for > free! At least for us users. He has made it and it is his right to > change or discontinue it at will. Suggestions are OK but not complaints, > IMHO. I am sure John Ekwall is doing the best he can. Agreed! From what I understand part of the change is being forced upon John because of the change of hosting provider and because they don't provide email lists. As an alternative to the web forum and to give John back some of his time, I'm capable (I've several years experience as senior sys admin for an ISP) and willing to host a mailing list on one of my servers. But, I'm not about to wade in and tread on John's toes without discussion. Steve