From simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk Mon May 1 11:26:20 2006 From: simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk (Simon Pipe) Date: Mon May 1 11:26:29 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena Message-ID: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8A74@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> I loved my five months on St Helena, before the depletion of population. I think teaching might be a bit frustrating - not the same level of motivation as in UK but very pleasant children. And you need to think about how easy it will be to get back into employment in the UK. I fear it's not so good from that point of view. Simon Pipe North Oxfordshire reporter BBC Oxford office: 01295 816799 mobile: 07834 846022 email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Gardener, John Sent: 24 April 2006 11:52 To: list@sthelena.se Cc: Botswana_John@hotmail.com Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena Good Day, I am interested to find out about the state of education on the island of St Helena. I am considering applying for a job vacancy to teach Maths on the island. There appears to be a Government recruitment drive at present. I am seeking encouraging but truthful island testimonials with particular reference to the quality of life and the possible benefits of teaching on your unspoilt island. I am currently based in England, of Scottish heritage and married to a Motswana ( native of Botswana ) wife. All helpful/truthful comments much appreciated. 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Simon Pipe (on St Helena 1996/7) email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Gardener, John Sent: 24 April 2006 11:52 To: list@sthelena.se Cc: Botswana_John@hotmail.com Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena Good Day, I am interested to find out about the state of education on the island of St Helena. I am considering applying for a job vacancy to teach Maths on the island. There appears to be a Government recruitment drive at present. I am seeking encouraging but truthful island testimonials with particular reference to the quality of life and the possible benefits of teaching on your unspoilt island. I am currently based in England, of Scottish heritage and married to a Motswana ( native of Botswana ) wife. All helpful/truthful comments much appreciated. Please reply to: Botswana_John@hotmail.com Kindest regards, Mr John Gardner. 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Further communication will signify your consent to this. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060501/9a725888/attachment.htm From nanystrom at yahoo.com Mon May 1 17:25:08 2006 From: nanystrom at yahoo.com (Nissa Nystrom) Date: Mon May 1 17:25:27 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] St Helena news stories In-Reply-To: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8A76@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060501152508.79321.qmail@web54511.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, that is a great idea! I don't know the answers to your questions but I would be very interested in hearing about them also. Best of luck and please let us know if you have any success in getting the ball rolling. Nissa Nystrom --- Simon Pipe wrote: > I'm meeting a couple of BBC producers later this > week and would like to > encourage them to think about a piece on St Helena. > They have a rural > affairs / environment brief. > > Any suggestions? Is the impending arrival of the > airport raising > environmental issues? How are the coffee and tuna > industries these days? > How's the honey? Are Saints still having to leave > their children behind > when they go off to work in the Falklands? > > > Simon Pipe > (on St Helena 1996/7) > email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk > > > > ________________________________ > > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se > [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > Behalf Of Gardener, John > Sent: 24 April 2006 11:52 > To: list@sthelena.se > Cc: Botswana_John@hotmail.com > Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena > > > Good Day, > > I am interested to find out about the state > of education on > the island of St Helena. I am considering > applying for a job > vacancy to teach Maths on the island. There > appears to be a > Government recruitment drive at present. > > I am seeking encouraging but truthful island > testimonials with > particular reference to the quality of life > and the possible > benefits of teaching on your unspoilt island. > > I am currently based in England, of Scottish > heritage and > married to a Motswana ( native of Botswana ) > wife. > > All helpful/truthful comments much appreciated. > > Please reply to: Botswana_John@hotmail.com > > Kindest regards, > > > Mr John Gardner. > > > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they are > addressed. If you have received this email in error > please notify the > originator of the message. 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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From iambiker at nildram.co.uk Mon May 1 17:37:43 2006 From: iambiker at nildram.co.uk (Jon (who else?)) Date: Mon May 1 17:38:05 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] St Helena news stories References: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8A76@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: <002301c66d35$3dd71d40$b3c20c54@meg> Hi Simon, (and of course, everyone else on the list) A piece about St Helena would be very positively welcomed by every one who has a connection to the island, but sadly I fear your producer colleagues may feel that an island story may only be an "interest only" type of production. The sort of industries that you refer to, Coffee, Tuna and Honey etc don't really happen in the UK on the scale that they did on St Helena (except maybe for Honey). The Coffee that is grown on the island (as well as the chocolate that is produced) can be found at this address http://www.st-helena-coffee.sh/. Again delivery problems involved getting the product off of the island mean that delivery can be a little bit delayed These people (http://www.graigfarm.co.uk/) used to sell fish imported into the UK from St Helena, but delieveries were unpredictable and sporadic, possably due to the remoteness of St Helena and maybe due to the scarcetity of visits to the UK by the RMS. As for the arrival of the airport, I can't comment on what impact that will have on local life on the island. My only experience of an airport on my doorstep was from the City Airport at King George V dock in East London. Maybe someone from the isalnd can give a more informed local opinion. A lot of people who visit the island love the romance of the remoteness of St Helena. In a digital world where even Antartica is only a mouse click away, there is a certain degree of awe about an island that still has to be reached by boat. I have no doubt that there will be environmental issues about an airport. On the one hand, the extra revenue from tourism would probably be welcomed, but all those extra tourist will certainly mean extra facilities will be needed on the island, everything from toilet rolls to petrol. As for Saints leaving their children behind to go and work off island, that has always happened and probably always will. I don't think it is something unique to St. Helena, but is certainly something that still happens even today. Some of my relatives from the island were employed in the merchant navy and would be away from home for quite considerable periods of time. The very very lucky ones were employed onboard the RMS, They get to visit home a lot more often than most people If you do manage to get the BBC to produce this piece then I would be more than happy to carry the cameras and other equipment necessary for you (the things some people would just for free trip to St Helena eh?) But seriously, Good luck in persuading them. Kind regards Jon Dingey East London Correspondant ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Pipe To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [STHELENA] St Helena news stories I'm meeting a couple of BBC producers later this week and would like to encourage them to think about a piece on St Helena. They have a rural affairs / environment brief. Any suggestions? Is the impending arrival of the airport raising environmental issues? How are the coffee and tuna industries these days? How's the honey? Are Saints still having to leave their children behind when they go off to work in the Falklands? Simon Pipe (on St Helena 1996/7) email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060501/bf01fc46/attachment.htm From Vince.Thompson at networkrail.co.uk Tue May 2 12:45:38 2006 From: Vince.Thompson at networkrail.co.uk (Thompson Vince) Date: Tue May 2 12:44:51 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Simon Pipe - St Helena Environmental Issues Message-ID: <47961DE15E7B98438975AF8451161069021414C4@sr1mm01.corp.UKrail.net> In response to Simon Pipe's enquiry, The airport environmental issue which gets the most media coverage is the presence of several endemic invertebrates on Prosperous Bay Plain. It is conceded the airport construction will affect the invertebrate's habitat to some extent but I have not seen any figures indicating how many square metres [hectares?] of habitat will be destroyed. Definitive information of this sort was not published after the recent UK government airport consultation on the island. The airport and related activities will also affect some of the natural breeding sites for the St Helena Plover [Wirebird] - another of the many species of flora and fauna found nowhere else in the world. Another environmental aspect is the number of easy wins which could be achieved if a little more financial and expert assistance was forthcoming. For instance, Eradication of wild cats - part of safeguarding the future Wirebird population Invasive vegetation clearance - this needs to be accelerated in order to have permanent benefits - together with the clearance is the planting of endemics in the spaces provided. A little government assistance for some of these easy wins would part-way counterbalance the damage to be caused to Prosperous Bay Plan. Protection of historic subterranean water levels - 'aquifer type' water extraction could eventually affect the flora & fauna if the practice persists in preference to increasing the storage of water sourced from the island streams. The coffee growing appears to be static [stagnant?] and the fishing industry which recently expanded to three ocean going vessels is now reduced to two after one vessel became detached from its moorings and was damaged against the rocks. This raises the issue of harbour facilities and the proposal to build a sea to shore unloading facility at Rupert's Bay as part of the supply arrangements for the airport construction. The airport consultation did not cover the findings from sociological studies commissioned as part of the fact-finding phase of the project development. The effect of the airport on islanders' way of life could be worth a programme in itself - in a similar way to the introduction of television to the island a few years back. In the last few years the island population has shrunk as people leave to earn money off-shore. The airport is heavily relied upon to reverse this trend. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060502/d07bfce0/attachment.htm From dave2182 at hotmail.com Tue May 2 16:19:46 2006 From: dave2182 at hotmail.com (Dave Simpson) Date: Tue May 2 16:19:59 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please Message-ID: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From raydop at yahoo.com Tue May 2 17:45:53 2006 From: raydop at yahoo.com (Raymond Dopmeyer) Date: Tue May 2 17:46:04 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Charges for overseas calls. Message-ID: <20060502154553.82745.qmail@web32405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I can tell You what is the most expensive way for a traveler to stay in touch with the folks at home by telephone. That is to ring up the office at your hotel and put in a "collect" call to your home. Collect calls in between countries are billed at person-to-person rates. Stop in at the telephone office in your hometown before you travel and get a "calling card" on which You can bill calls made while traveling. Calls can be made by just specfying the number which is much cheaper than if you ask the operator to ask for a specific person. When you get your Calling Card be sure to ask at the telephone office and ascertain that they will bill "station-to-station" calls. If you can dial direct from your hotel room you can usually save a lot. Raymond Dopmeyer Minnesota, USA raydop@yahoo.com --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060502/7e23b8d7/attachment.htm From manager at sainthelenabank.com Wed May 3 10:12:17 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Wed May 3 10:12:45 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c66e89$512d0e40$0a0b000a@shgbank10> All-list reply, for general interest... Anyone thinking of emigrating here to start a business should get in touch with SHDA (http://www.shda.helanta.sh/). If you want to come here and be an employee there is no single point of contact - you need to get in touch with someone appropriate to the job you will do. Be aware that, even as a UK citizen, you can't work here without a work permit, and you will only be able to get one as long as no Saint wishes to do the job. This need not discourage you, but don't assume you can just walk in. Regards, John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Dave Simpson Sent: 02 May 2006 14:20 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. __________ NOD32 1.1517 (20060502) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From hokke27 at hotmail.com Fri May 5 15:20:52 2006 From: hokke27 at hotmail.com (Hokke Larsen) Date: Fri May 5 15:21:11 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] RE: List Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200605021000.k42A04Nu016318@rex.kulturservern.se> Message-ID: For my own experiance I can say that the honey is GOOOOD! It ought to be able to support the entire Island, because it's so good. Hokke >From: list-request@sthelena.se >Reply-To: list@sthelena.se >To: list@sthelena.se >Subject: List Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2 >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:00:10 +0200 > >Send List mailing list submissions to > list@sthelena.se > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > list-request@sthelena.se > >You can reach the person managing the list at > list-owner@sthelena.se > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of List digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. St Helena news stories (Simon Pipe) > 2. Re: St Helena news stories (Nissa Nystrom) > 3. Re: St Helena news stories (Jon (who else?)) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 11:56:54 +0100 >From: "Simon Pipe" >Subject: [STHELENA] St Helena news stories >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic\(Eng\)" > >Message-ID: > <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8A76@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I'm meeting a couple of BBC producers later this week and would like to >encourage them to think about a piece on St Helena. They have a rural >affairs / environment brief. > >Any suggestions? Is the impending arrival of the airport raising >environmental issues? How are the coffee and tuna industries these days? >How's the honey? Are Saints still having to leave their children behind >when they go off to work in the Falklands? > > >Simon Pipe >(on St Helena 1996/7) >email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk > > > >________________________________ > >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Gardener, John >Sent: 24 April 2006 11:52 >To: list@sthelena.se >Cc: Botswana_John@hotmail.com >Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena > > >Good Day, > >I am interested to find out about the state of education on >the island of St Helena. I am considering applying for a job >vacancy to teach Maths on the island. There appears to be a >Government recruitment drive at present. > >I am seeking encouraging but truthful island testimonials with >particular reference to the quality of life and the possible >benefits of teaching on your unspoilt island. > >I am currently based in England, of Scottish heritage and >married to a Motswana ( native of Botswana ) wife. > >All helpful/truthful comments much appreciated. > >Please reply to: Botswana_John@hotmail.com > >Kindest regards, > > >Mr John Gardner. > > > > > >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the >originator of the message. Any views expressed in this message are those >of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with >authority, states them to be the views of the Borough of Telford & >Wrekin The content of this email has been automatically checked in >conjunction with the relevant policies of the Borough of Telford & >Wrekin. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060501/9a725888/attachment-0001.htm > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) >From: Nissa Nystrom >Subject: Re: [STHELENA] St Helena news stories >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic\(Eng\)" > >Message-ID: <20060501152508.79321.qmail@web54511.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Hey, that is a great idea! I don't know the answers >to your questions but I would be very interested in >hearing about them also. Best of luck and please let >us know if you have any success in getting the ball >rolling. > >Nissa Nystrom > >--- Simon Pipe wrote: > > > I'm meeting a couple of BBC producers later this > > week and would like to > > encourage them to think about a piece on St Helena. > > They have a rural > > affairs / environment brief. > > > > Any suggestions? Is the impending arrival of the > > airport raising > > environmental issues? How are the coffee and tuna > > industries these days? > > How's the honey? Are Saints still having to leave > > their children behind > > when they go off to work in the Falklands? > > > > > > Simon Pipe > > (on St Helena 1996/7) > > email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se > > [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > > Behalf Of Gardener, John > > Sent: 24 April 2006 11:52 > > To: list@sthelena.se > > Cc: Botswana_John@hotmail.com > > Subject: [STHELENA] Education in St Helena > > > > > > Good Day, > > > > I am interested to find out about the state > > of education on > > the island of St Helena. I am considering > > applying for a job > > vacancy to teach Maths on the island. There > > appears to be a > > Government recruitment drive at present. > > > > I am seeking encouraging but truthful island > > testimonials with > > particular reference to the quality of life > > and the possible > > benefits of teaching on your unspoilt island. > > > > I am currently based in England, of Scottish > > heritage and > > married to a Motswana ( native of Botswana ) > > wife. > > > > All helpful/truthful comments much appreciated. > > > > Please reply to: Botswana_John@hotmail.com > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > > > Mr John Gardner. > > > > > > > > > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are > > confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or > > entity to whom they are > > addressed. If you have received this email in error > > please notify the > > originator of the message. 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Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:37:43 +0100 >From: "Jon (who else?)" >Subject: Re: [STHELENA] St Helena news stories >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" > >Message-ID: <002301c66d35$3dd71d40$b3c20c54@meg> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi Simon, (and of course, everyone else on the list) > >A piece about St Helena would be very positively welcomed by every one who >has a connection to the island, but sadly I fear your producer colleagues >may feel that an island story may only be an "interest only" type of >production. The sort of industries that you refer to, Coffee, Tuna and >Honey etc don't really happen in the UK on the scale that they did on St >Helena (except maybe for Honey). > >The Coffee that is grown on the island (as well as the chocolate that is >produced) can be found at this address http://www.st-helena-coffee.sh/. >Again delivery problems involved getting the product off of the island mean >that delivery can be a little bit delayed > >These people (http://www.graigfarm.co.uk/) used to sell fish imported into >the UK from St Helena, but delieveries were unpredictable and sporadic, >possably due to the remoteness of St Helena and maybe due to the scarcetity >of visits to the UK by the RMS. > >As for the arrival of the airport, I can't comment on what impact that will >have on local life on the island. My only experience of an airport on my >doorstep was from the City Airport at King George V dock in East London. >Maybe someone from the isalnd can give a more informed local opinion. A >lot of people who visit the island love the romance of the remoteness of St >Helena. In a digital world where even Antartica is only a mouse click >away, there is a certain degree of awe about an island that still has to be >reached by boat. I have no doubt that there will be environmental issues >about an airport. On the one hand, the extra revenue from tourism would >probably be welcomed, but all those extra tourist will certainly mean extra >facilities will be needed on the island, everything from toilet rolls to >petrol. > >As for Saints leaving their children behind to go and work off island, that >has always happened and probably always will. I don't think it is >something unique to St. Helena, but is certainly something that still >happens even today. Some of my relatives from the island were employed in >the merchant navy and would be away from home for quite considerable >periods of time. The very very lucky ones were employed onboard the RMS, >They get to visit home a lot more often than most people > >If you do manage to get the BBC to produce this piece then I would be more >than happy to carry the cameras and other equipment necessary for you (the >things some people would just for free trip to St Helena eh?) But >seriously, Good luck in persuading them. > >Kind regards >Jon >Dingey East London Correspondant > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Pipe > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:56 AM > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [STHELENA] St Helena news stories > > > I'm meeting a couple of BBC producers later this week and would like to >encourage them to think about a piece on St Helena. They have a rural >affairs / environment brief. > > Any suggestions? Is the impending arrival of the airport raising >environmental issues? How are the coffee and tuna industries these days? >How's the honey? Are Saints still having to leave their children behind >when they go off to work in the Falklands? > > Simon Pipe > (on St Helena 1996/7) > email: simon.pipe@bbc.co.uk >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060501/bf01fc46/attachment-0001.htm > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >List mailing list >List@sthelena.se >http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list > > >End of List Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2 >*********************************** From john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se Fri May 5 20:52:45 2006 From: john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se (John Ekwall) Date: Fri May 5 20:52:55 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Roland Svensson Lithos References: <4456A10A.9000604@eastcaribbean.com> Message-ID: <001f01c67075$195c1ef0$c34dfea9@HemPC> Hi, During Tristan da Cunha Ass. AGM I had a display showing photos and art by Roland S. The display pictures were handed over to Ron Burn so my luggage wasn't that heavy when going back to Sweden. I had some Roland lithos for sale (reasonably priced) and I still have some left, so if you are interested - just contact me (depicts Tristan da Cunha, Calshot Harbour and Jamestown Anchorage) for details and price. Greetings from a sunny and warm Sweden John Ekwall From imann at rocketmail.com Sun May 7 08:07:32 2006 From: imann at rocketmail.com (Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1) Date: Sun May 7 08:07:43 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060507060732.28533.qmail@web50304.mail.yahoo.com> I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots of money no. Let me know how you make out Dave Simpson wrote: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060507/d6b161dc/attachment.htm From BILL-LOCKMAN at woh.rr.com Sun May 7 14:51:29 2006 From: BILL-LOCKMAN at woh.rr.com (BILL-LOCKMAN@woh.rr.com) Date: Sun May 7 14:52:05 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <20060507060732.28533.qmail@web50304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060507060732.28533.qmail@web50304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: SGT. I JUST SIGNED ON TO THE ST. HELENA LIST YESTERDAY-- I AM A STAMP COLLECTOR, SO I HAVE NO IDEA . BUT GOOD LUCK IN YOR FUTURE. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 Date: Sunday, May 7, 2006 2:13 am Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" > I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want > people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots > of money no. Let me know how you make out > > Dave Simpson wrote: Hi > > Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family > to St Helena? > > Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to > date I havent had one response. > > I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to > SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information > on it. Do you really want us??? > > My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and > possibly an 18 year old too. > > I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the > Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that > with the full backing of my family. > > I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and > were in the initial stages of working with them to set something > up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as > the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. > > This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs > are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats > the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can > I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. > > I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT > networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, > advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and > nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & > decorating, and various other things!!! > > Any assistance would be very useful. > > Thanks > Dave > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's > FREE!http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > > SEMPER FI > Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade > Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired > http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk > email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail From raygent at tiscali.co.uk Mon May 8 01:21:25 2006 From: raygent at tiscali.co.uk (Ray) Date: Mon May 8 01:18:51 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Descendants of Sophia and John Phillips Message-ID: <000d01c6722c$f5ef5c70$9b666d58@sod> Hi I am trying to trace any descendants of Sophia and John Phillips who may still live on St Helena. Sophia was born in 1795 and John died in 1862. They had 8 childran. Ann Jane who married Benjamin Parker and came to England. (my 3xGreat Grandfather and mother) The remaining childran were John Archabald, Mary Ann William Patrick, Charles Frederick, Charles Edward, James Nathanial and Amelia. I would be greatful for any help in tracing them Thanks Jean Gent England -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/f21db4bd/attachment.htm From jcoyle at powerup.com.au Mon May 8 02:38:18 2006 From: jcoyle at powerup.com.au (John Coyle) Date: Mon May 8 02:38:45 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Roland Svensson Lithos References: <4456A10A.9000604@eastcaribbean.com> <001f01c67075$195c1ef0$c34dfea9@HemPC> Message-ID: <02a001c67237$b5186380$0100000a@PRAXIS> Hi John: I could be interested in the one of Jamestown Anchorage, depending on subject and price! (of course) Regards John Coyle Brisbane, Australia (in winter, 27 today and a cloudless blue sky!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ekwall" To: Cc: "All about St. Helena - The Island of Napoleon (Eng)" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:52 AM Subject: [STHELENA] Roland Svensson Lithos > Hi, > > During Tristan da Cunha Ass. AGM I had a display showing photos and art by > Roland S. The display pictures were handed over to Ron Burn so my luggage > wasn't that heavy when going back to Sweden. I had some Roland lithos for > sale (reasonably priced) and I still have some left, so if you are > interested - just contact me (depicts Tristan da Cunha, Calshot Harbour > and > Jamestown Anchorage) for details and price. > > Greetings from a sunny and warm Sweden > > John Ekwall > > > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From manager at sainthelenabank.com Mon May 8 10:27:03 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Mon May 8 10:27:25 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <20060507060732.28533.qmail@web50304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c67279$324fd5e0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> "Don't ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by other things". Email is not a big thing for most people here, as the majority of intra-island communication still happens face-to-face. Email is used more like letters - to create a record, rather than as a swift person-to-person link, as is the case outside St. Helena. So don't presume no answer to be equivalent to no interest. And to pick up on the specific point, people with pots of money who want to 'buy up the island' are not welcome. People who wish to come here and contribute their skills to growing the island, for the benefit of the island as a whole, are. Regards, John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 Sent: 07 May 2006 06:08 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots of money no. Let me know how you make out Dave Simpson wrote: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html _____ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/7bda3509/attachment-0001.htm From imann at rocketmail.com Mon May 8 14:01:50 2006 From: imann at rocketmail.com (Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1) Date: Mon May 8 14:02:04 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <001701c67279$324fd5e0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Message-ID: <20060508120150.41740.qmail@web50305.mail.yahoo.com> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? "John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena" wrote: "Don't ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by other things". Email is not a big thing for most people here, as the majority of intra-island communication still happens face-to-face. Email is used more like letters - to create a record, rather than as a swift person-to-person link, as is the case outside St. Helena. So don't presume no answer to be equivalent to no interest. And to pick up on the specific point, people with pots of money who want to 'buy up the island' are not welcome. People who wish to come here and contribute their skills to growing the island, for the benefit of the island as a whole, are. Regards, st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#ieooui) } @page Section1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin: 35.4pt; mso-footer-margin: 35.4pt; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.GramE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-gram-e: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 Sent: 07 May 2006 06:08 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots of money no. Let me know how you make out Dave Simpson wrote: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html --------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/ea7521a0/attachment.htm From cbenjamin at uwc.ac.za Mon May 8 14:51:19 2006 From: cbenjamin at uwc.ac.za (Carmelita Benjamin) Date: Mon May 8 14:47:48 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Message-ID: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/2852cea8/attachment.htm From manager at sainthelenabank.com Mon May 8 15:11:46 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Mon May 8 15:12:12 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <20060508120150.41740.qmail@web50305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c672a0$f92dcce0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> I'm intrigued by the question. Apart from the Saints who live in South Africa I can't see why the crime rate there would be of particular relevance to us here. Crime in St. Helena is notoriously low. Cars are never locked, and often have the keys left in the ignition; houses are similarly often left open; and it is safe for anyone of any sex and age to walk the streets. If you drop your wallet/handbag in the street the chances are that it will be returned to you, complete with all contents. I feel safer here than I have done in any other place I've lived. Such crime as there is is mostly related to people getting drunk and therefore behaving badly. And most crimes tend to be domestic in nature - one (extended-) family member against another. Crime against visitors is, from memory, almost unknown. Of course, once the planes start to arrive things will, inevitably, change. At the moment, when visitors are relatively few, and arrive irregularly, anyone new is immediately recognisable so their ability to commit crime or suffer it is lessened. Whether having more 'strangers' here increases the incidence of crime is an issue that concerns people, though there is probably not much we can do to prevent it. I was impressed when I first arrived here at the amount of outcry that a few kids at PAS caused by getting drunk. It was treated as a national outrage. In the worst UK schools a whole class being high on Heroin wouldn't have got as much attention. And as long as crime remains a matter of concern its incidence will remain small. It's when it becomes commonplace and unremarkable, as is the case in most world cities, that you know things have got out of hand. Regards, JT -----Original Message----- From: Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 [mailto:imann@rocketmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2006 12:02 To: manager@sainthelenabank.com; All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] I need some information please Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? "John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena" wrote: "Don't ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by other things". Email is not a big thing for most people here, as the majority of intra-island communication still happens face-to-face. Email is used more like letters - to create a record, rather than as a swift person-to-person link, as is the case outside St. Helena. So don't presume no answer to be equivalent to no interest. And to pick up on the specific point, people with pots of money who want to 'buy up the island' are not welcome. People who wish to come here and contribute their skills to growing the island, for the benefit of the island as a whole, are. Regards, John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 Sent: 07 May 2006 06:08 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots of money no. Let me know how you make out Dave Simpson wrote: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html _____ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html _____ Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/1c1cf236/attachment-0001.htm From robson at iinet.net.au Mon May 8 15:35:32 2006 From: robson at iinet.net.au (Alistair Robertson) Date: Mon May 8 15:35:52 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please References: <001501c672a0$f92dcce0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Message-ID: <00e101c672a4$48004ca0$0201010a@main> Message Notoriously low? Should there be more of it in St. Helena? A.G.Robertson. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena To: 'Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1' Cc: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'm intrigued by the question. Apart from the Saints who live in South Africa I can't see why the crime rate there would be of particular relevance to us here. Crime in St. Helena is notoriously low. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/e099bd3d/attachment.htm From sea_dragons at earthlink.net Mon May 8 15:46:57 2006 From: sea_dragons at earthlink.net (Christopher D. Lewis) Date: Mon May 8 15:47:06 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <00e101c672a4$48004ca0$0201010a@main> References: <001501c672a0$f92dcce0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> <00e101c672a4$48004ca0$0201010a@main> Message-ID: On May 8, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Alistair Robertson wrote: > Notoriously low? Should there be more of it in St. Helena? As with other things, the island experiences occasional shortages, I imagine ... though in this case I don't expect there will be much complaint. I lived in a very small community when I was young, and we also left doors unlocked, left keys in the ignition, and walked at any hour in confidence of safety. I believe a lot of planned crime is the result of people who think they are anonymous believing they'll never be found -- something that's hard to believe when everyone knows your first name and recognizes you on sight. As Mr. Turner indicated, you pretty much have to be drunk to conduct yourself with conspicuous illegality under those conditions. > I'm intrigued by the question. Apart from the Saints who live in > South Africa I can't see why the crime rate there would be of > particular relevance to us here. Indeed: it's a long swim for would-be criminals, or an expensive trip for someone presumably so without contents in his own wallet that your wallet starts looking good. Best regards, Chris From manager at sainthelenabank.com Mon May 8 15:59:05 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Mon May 8 15:59:28 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please In-Reply-To: <00e101c672a4$48004ca0$0201010a@main> Message-ID: <002a01c672a7$95454e90$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/c4fc2b4d/attachment.gif From iambiker at nildram.co.uk Mon May 8 16:49:09 2006 From: iambiker at nildram.co.uk (Jon (who else?)) Date: Mon May 8 16:49:15 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please References: Message-ID: <007001c672ae$9326d730$271e0c54@meg> Just my ramblings. Despite being a decendant of a former Treasurer/Harbourmaster of St Helena, even I would be required to emigrate from the UK in order to be able to immigrate onto the island. As a result I remember this website which gave a bit of information about how to do it. Say hello to WPC Janella Scipio, who will become your very close friend if you wish to move onto the island full time (that means anything over 48 hours) You can find her and other information about residing on the isalnd at: http://www.sainthelena.gov.sh/government/Police-Immigration.htm. As has already been mentioned. Work wise, you may need to demonstrate a particular skill that an islander has not got. You may also be required to prove that you can independantly support yourself should work not start immediately. It is surprising that you are required to do all this just to be able to move within (what is technically) the UK. I would have thought that the easiest solution would be to turn up on the island and declare yourself as an Asylum seeker (just kidding) Working within Tourism may give you an edge with regards to the forthcoming airport. I would imagine that there would be a need to an isalnd based liasion service of some sort for the aircraft and their visitors etc. Good luck with your quest, as I said earlier these are just my own ramblings and do constitute the official island policy, however the web site above will be able to help you more than I can. Kind regards Jon Dingey East London correspondant ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Simpson To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [STHELENA] I need some information please Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/28004648/attachment-0001.htm From john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se Mon May 8 20:01:34 2006 From: john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se (John Ekwall) Date: Mon May 8 20:01:49 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Searching for Mussell Message-ID: <002901c672c9$71ce8270$c34dfea9@HemPC> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: Feedback from sthelena.se > > cindy mussell (flywellcpt2@galileosa.co.za) > > searching for family > > i am searching for family related to my grandfather william john mussell, who ran away to south africa. are there any mussell family members on the island? how can i contact them? > > > From cliffwoodroffe at hotmail.com Mon May 8 21:20:01 2006 From: cliffwoodroffe at hotmail.com (Clifford Woodroffe) Date: Mon May 8 21:20:18 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] I need some information please References: <001501c672a0$f92dcce0$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Message-ID: MessageWhen I was on the island last summer I was daft enough to leave my mobile phone in a phone box (I needed it to get a number that was stored on it). It was about 20 mins before I relaised I had left it and was not concerned as I had left it in pubs etc many times in London and it had never been taken. Rather amused, and slightly annoyed, then to find that on an island 1,200 miles from a mobile network it had been taken as a souvenir by someone. It never did turn up during the month I was there, despite a plea on the radio and my chatting to almost every kid on the island, together with seeing if my Saint chums could find out anything. Not a major problem there, but proved slightly difficult when wandering round Botswana when I got to Africa having lost all the contact details I needed! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena To: 'Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1' Cc: 'All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)' Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'm intrigued by the question. Apart from the Saints who live in South Africa I can't see why the crime rate there would be of particular relevance to us here. Crime in St. Helena is notoriously low. Cars are never locked, and often have the keys left in the ignition; houses are similarly often left open; and it is safe for anyone of any sex and age to walk the streets. If you drop your wallet/handbag in the street the chances are that it will be returned to you, complete with all contents. I feel safer here than I have done in any other place I've lived. Such crime as there is is mostly related to people getting drunk and therefore behaving badly. And most crimes tend to be domestic in nature - one (extended-) family member against another. Crime against visitors is, from memory, almost unknown. Of course, once the planes start to arrive things will, inevitably, change. At the moment, when visitors are relatively few, and arrive irregularly, anyone new is immediately recognisable so their ability to commit crime or suffer it is lessened. Whether having more 'strangers' here increases the incidence of crime is an issue that concerns people, though there is probably not much we can do to prevent it. I was impressed when I first arrived here at the amount of outcry that a few kids at PAS caused by getting drunk. It was treated as a national outrage. In the worst UK schools a whole class being high on Heroin wouldn't have got as much attention. And as long as crime remains a matter of concern its incidence will remain small. It's when it becomes commonplace and unremarkable, as is the case in most world cities, that you know things have got out of hand. Regards, JT -----Original Message----- From: Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 [mailto:imann@rocketmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2006 12:02 To: manager@sainthelenabank.com; All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] I need some information please Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? "John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena" wrote: "Don't ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by other things". Email is not a big thing for most people here, as the majority of intra-island communication still happens face-to-face. Email is used more like letters - to create a record, rather than as a swift person-to-person link, as is the case outside St. Helena. So don't presume no answer to be equivalent to no interest. And to pick up on the specific point, people with pots of money who want to 'buy up the island' are not welcome. People who wish to come here and contribute their skills to growing the island, for the benefit of the island as a whole, are. Regards, John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1 Sent: 07 May 2006 06:08 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please I'll bet the reason they have not response is they don't want people coming there permanently, visit yes but unless you got lots of money no. Let me know how you make out Dave Simpson wrote: Hi Where would I go to get information on moving myself and my family to St Helena? Ive emailed various addresses that Ive come accross online, but to date I havent had one response. I read that the UK government wants people to emigrate from UK to SH, but it seems that all the SH sites dont give any information on it. Do you really want us??? My family consists of me (41), my wife (38), two boys (12&14) and possibly an 18 year old too. I have wanted to return to SH and live ever since I visited the Island when I was in the RN. I am now in a position to do that with the full backing of my family. I am currently working for a medium sized tour operator (PT) and were in the initial stages of working with them to set something up in SH. Unfortunately, that project has had to be put on hold as the company has just been sold to a larger organisation. This has not dampened our desire to move to SH. What business/jobs are available on SH? What business/jobs are needed on SH? Whats the cost of living? Whats the average wage? What help, if any, can I get to set up a new business on the island? etc etc. I have experience in, travel & tourism. DTP, Web design, IT networks, PC hardware/software, magazine publication, newspapers, advertising, office management, training. Restaurant, bar and nightclub work/manager. Model making, model railways, painting & decorating, and various other things!!! Any assistance would be very useful. Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. 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URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060508/8d78f8cc/attachment-0001.htm From manager at sainthelenabank.com Tue May 9 10:28:45 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Tue May 9 10:29:21 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] mobile phone theft Message-ID: <001901c67342$a2c4f390$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Clifford, (and to list because of the anecdote value) I think you're right - it was probably taken by a child as a 'status toy'. They wouldn't have realised how much disruption losing your portable database can cause! Out of interest, did you report it to the Police? If you lose/have stolen a mobile in most countries there's no point in reporting it because there is absolutely zero chance of anyone even investigating it, but I'll bet that, if you reported it here, you would have had a different reaction. One afternoon someone scraped the side of my (rental) car when parked outside Castle Gardens, and I reported it only because I wanted to establish for the benefit of the car hirer that I hadn't done the damage myself. I was amazed at the reaction. We had a full investigation, including taking a two page statement from me, a plan of the 'crime scene' and photographs of the damage to the car. I even had a very nice letter apologising when they were unable to solve the crime and were closing the case. Try reporting a car-park scrape in London or New York ....they'd probably arrest you for wasting police time. Regards, John Turner Manager Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, STHL 1ZZ. Tel: +290 2044 Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Woodroffe [mailto:cliffwoodroffe@hotmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2006 19:20 To: manager@sainthelenabank.com; All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] I need some information please When I was on the island last summer I was daft enough to leave my mobile phone in a phone box (I needed it to get a number that was stored on it). It was about 20 mins before I relaised I had left it and was not concerned as I had left it in pubs etc many times in London and it had never been taken. Rather amused, and slightly annoyed, then to find that on an island 1,200 miles from a mobile network it had been taken as a souvenir by someone. It never did turn up during the month I was there, despite a plea on the radio and my chatting to almost every kid on the island, together with seeing if my Saint chums could find out anything. Not a major problem there, but proved slightly difficult when wandering round Botswana when I got to Africa having lost all the contact details I needed! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060509/75be537a/attachment.htm From imann at rocketmail.com Wed May 10 13:40:12 2006 From: imann at rocketmail.com (Sgt Ivan Mann USMC 3/1) Date: Wed May 10 13:40:25 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060510114012.37342.qmail@web50308.mail.yahoo.com> Carmelita; The name of that park by-the-way is Pottawatomie it?s on the Fox river the town is made up of another group of decedents of blond blue eye people the Scandinavians who where the first settlers. If you were to go to any of the local churches on Sunday you would not be able to find any brown eye people. These people who left Africa claim they were the ones that paid and built the infrastructure that is falling apart now that they aren?t there paying taxes is this true? My daughter and son-inlaw live there and I go there often with the grandkids when I go to visit. Carmelita Benjamin wrote: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html --------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060510/0c6da691/attachment.htm From cbenjamin at uwc.ac.za Wed May 10 15:55:06 2006 From: cbenjamin at uwc.ac.za (Carmelita Benjamin) Date: Wed May 10 15:52:07 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Message-ID: Hi The phrase that caught my eye is ..."infrastructure falling apart" all because they're not paying taxes? I think that they are referring to when 'apartheid' was constitutionally brought to an end. If 'they' were a young group of people, it was probaly their forefathers that contributed to the infrastructure. In South Africa 'these people' are a minority group and yes they had all the opportunities to built the infrastructure to 'their' liking without the rest of the population to contribute or maybe have a say in it. Just like in any country we pay taxes, depending on the income group you fall in. Another comment I could add is that our new government is still very young (12 years) and still going through some growing pains. All wrong-doing can not be fix in a moment and saying 'sorry' will not bring back people who lost their lifes fighting for freedom, or (those who can remember) replace your pride and dignity. We have a huge number of people living in extreme poverty and sometimes they have to steal to have something on their table (that is to say:if they have a table). I am not justifying any crime, but some understanding is also needed. South Africa still has a far way to go before the hatred and anger is totally forgotten. As for the blond blue eyed people: R.S.A. has an extremely wide spectrum of skin colours. And the "white" population originated from Europe as they were called 'europians' in the aparthaid days. So I wouldn't be surprised if the group of people you met had dominant Scandinavian genes (or something similar). The only 'falling apart' is the unfortunate bad publicity South Africa got with a (previously) high ranking political figure. Something that should be taken into consideration: unlike other parts of Africa (or the rest of the world) 1. the citizens drink tap water, it is safe 2. we have flushing toilets (you can only wish for that in parts of Mexico) 3. and there is no wild animals roaming the streets (unless they escaped from the zoo) Regards Carmelita Carmelita; The name of that park by-the-way is Pottawatomie it's on the Fox river the town is made up of another group of decedents of blond blue eye people the Scandinavians who where the first settlers. If you were to go to any of the local churches on Sunday you would not be able to find any brown eye people. These people who left Africa claim they were the ones that paid and built the infrastructure that is falling apart now that they aren't there paying taxes is this true? My daughter and son-inlaw live there and I go there often with the grandkids when I go to visit. Carmelita Benjamin wrote: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060510/4109141f/attachment.htm From tmhughley at wcbcorps.com Wed May 10 20:37:41 2006 From: tmhughley at wcbcorps.com (Tessa M. Hughley) Date: Wed May 10 20:38:00 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Message-ID: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED921044C90@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> To add my two cents in defense of South Africa and Cape Town in particular: I visited Cape Town and the surrounding areas three times in the last several years and fell in love with the city and the country. I was aware of the "high rate of crime" and had been warned about it by various people. I was never afraid or worried for my safety while I was there. I was careful in the same way that I am careful here in the United States, or traveling in any other country. A group of us were sitting at a restaurant's terrace one morning and as I looked around at our group, I marveled at the fact that all of us were sitting there together; one Zulu, ("Black" by SA/Apartheid terms), two whites, and three "Coloreds" (brown). I was never in South Africa during the time of Apartheid but I know what things were like then and found it hard to imagine that there was a time when we would not have been able to have that breakfast together. South Africa is a beautiful country and I recommend it highly. :-) ________________________________ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Carmelita Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:55 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Hi The phrase that caught my eye is ..."infrastructure falling apart" all because they're not paying taxes? I think that they are referring to when 'apartheid' was constitutionally brought to an end. If 'they' were a young group of people, it was probaly their forefathers that contributed to the infrastructure. In South Africa 'these people' are a minority group and yes they had all the opportunities to built the infrastructure to 'their' liking without the rest of the population to contribute or maybe have a say in it. Just like in any country we pay taxes, depending on the income group you fall in. Another comment I could add is that our new government is still very young (12 years) and still going through some growing pains. All wrong-doing can not be fix in a moment and saying 'sorry' will not bring back people who lost their lifes fighting for freedom, or (those who can remember) replace your pride and dignity. We have a huge number of people living in extreme poverty and sometimes they have to steal to have something on their table (that is to say:if they have a table). I am not justifying any crime, but some understanding is also needed. South Africa still has a far way to go before the hatred and anger is totally forgotten. As for the blond blue eyed people: R.S.A. has an extremely wide spectrum of skin colours. And the "white" population originated from Europe as they were called 'europians' in the aparthaid days. So I wouldn't be surprised if the group of people you met had dominant Scandinavian genes (or something similar). The only 'falling apart' is the unfortunate bad publicity South Africa got with a (previously) high ranking political figure. Something that should be taken into consideration: unlike other parts of Africa (or the rest of the world) 1. the citizens drink tap water, it is safe 2. we have flushing toilets (you can only wish for that in parts of Mexico) 3. and there is no wild animals roaming the streets (unless they escaped from the zoo) Regards Carmelita Carmelita; The name of that park by-the-way is Pottawatomie it's on the Fox river the town is made up of another group of decedents of blond blue eye people the Scandinavians who where the first settlers. If you were to go to any of the local churches on Sunday you would not be able to find any brown eye people. These people who left Africa claim they were the ones that paid and built the infrastructure that is falling apart now that they aren't there paying taxes is this true? My daughter and son-inlaw live there and I go there often with the grandkids when I go to visit. Carmelita Benjamin wrote: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html ________________________________ Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060510/ec457aa3/attachment-0001.htm From lgreenf at ktb.net Wed May 10 22:17:10 2006 From: lgreenf at ktb.net (Larry Greenfield) Date: Wed May 10 22:17:43 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail References: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED921044C90@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> Message-ID: <001001c6746e$b82b5530$6400a8c0@main> At the risk of getting too far off the subject now, I second Tessa's comments. South Africa is a great country, and Cape Town in particular is a wonderful place. Like any place in the world, it has its dangers and faults, but I doubt I would have spent so much time there, then gone back the following year, then convinced my sister and her family to go, then convinced my siblings to pool together to send my dad there for his 75th birthday present. He loved it, joining a tour for part of it, but also being completley on his own for a while in Cape Town (at age 75) and he couldn't speak highly enough of it. Every place has its problems, but I've come to really love South Africa, its people, its land, and Cape Town is arguably the nicest large city in SA. I would love to go back again (as I would back to St Helena) and hope to at some point when I can afford a decent-stay trip again (it's not exactly a short hop from the west coast of the US). Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tessa M. Hughley To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail To add my two cents in defense of South Africa and Cape Town in particular: I visited Cape Town and the surrounding areas three times in the last several years and fell in love with the city and the country. I was aware of the "high rate of crime" and had been warned about it by various people. I was never afraid or worried for my safety while I was there. I was careful in the same way that I am careful here in the United States, or traveling in any other country. A group of us were sitting at a restaurant's terrace one morning and as I looked around at our group, I marveled at the fact that all of us were sitting there together; one Zulu, ("Black" by SA/Apartheid terms), two whites, and three "Coloreds" (brown). I was never in South Africa during the time of Apartheid but I know what things were like then and found it hard to imagine that there was a time when we would not have been able to have that breakfast together. South Africa is a beautiful country and I recommend it highly. J ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Carmelita Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:55 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Hi The phrase that caught my eye is ..."infrastructure falling apart" all because they're not paying taxes? I think that they are referring to when 'apartheid' was constitutionally brought to an end. If 'they' were a young group of people, it was probaly their forefathers that contributed to the infrastructure. In South Africa 'these people' are a minority group and yes they had all the opportunities to built the infrastructure to 'their' liking without the rest of the population to contribute or maybe have a say in it. Just like in any country we pay taxes, depending on the income group you fall in. Another comment I could add is that our new government is still very young (12 years) and still going through some growing pains. All wrong-doing can not be fix in a moment and saying 'sorry' will not bring back people who lost their lifes fighting for freedom, or (those who can remember) replace your pride and dignity. We have a huge number of people living in extreme poverty and sometimes they have to steal to have something on their table (that is to say:if they have a table). I am not justifying any crime, but some understanding is also needed. South Africa still has a far way to go before the hatred and anger is totally forgotten. As for the blond blue eyed people: R.S.A. has an extremely wide spectrum of skin colours. And the "white" population originated from Europe as they were called 'europians' in the aparthaid days. So I wouldn't be surprised if the group of people you met had dominant Scandinavian genes (or something similar). The only 'falling apart' is the unfortunate bad publicity South Africa got with a (previously) high ranking political figure. Something that should be taken into consideration: unlike other parts of Africa (or the rest of the world) 1. the citizens drink tap water, it is safe 2. we have flushing toilets (you can only wish for that in parts of Mexico) 3. and there is no wild animals roaming the streets (unless they escaped from the zoo) Regards Carmelita Carmelita; The name of that park by-the-way is Pottawatomie it's on the Fox river the town is made up of another group of decedents of blond blue eye people the Scandinavians who where the first settlers. If you were to go to any of the local churches on Sunday you would not be able to find any brown eye people. These people who left Africa claim they were the ones that paid and built the infrastructure that is falling apart now that they aren't there paying taxes is this true? My daughter and son-inlaw live there and I go there often with the grandkids when I go to visit. Carmelita Benjamin wrote: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060510/0ffd0c17/attachment-0001.htm From manager at sainthelenabank.com Thu May 11 10:17:45 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Thu May 11 10:18:14 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] St. Helena's problems are too trivial for Tony Blair Message-ID: <000d01c674d3$67f97140$0a0b000a@shgbank10> That is the conclusion being drawn by local media after a question on infrastructure in St. Helena was raised yesterday in the House of Commons during Questions To The Prime Minister. Mr Blair replied in a way that, understanding UK parliamentary language as I do (I used to be an elected representative for my village), amounts to saying "don't bother me with trivial issues". A recording of the proceedings also shows that there was general laughter when the topic of St. Helena was raised, and it is thought locally that MPs were treating St. Helena as a joke, though I should point out that the laughter may have been over something else. I have an MP3 file of the relevant part of the SaintFM 7am news broadcast, which includes the audio of the question and reply. I've not included it in this email as I know the group has a message size limit but will happily send it to anyone that wants it - please email me direct. I gather this was also covered in some of the UK newspapers today. John Turner Burgh House, Barren Ground, Blue Hill, St. Helena (Please send post to: PO Box 37, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena, South Atlantic, STHL 1ZZ) Tel: +290 3235 (office +290 2044) NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060511/641d8674/attachment.htm From thomas at flyingkettle.com Thu May 11 10:25:24 2006 From: thomas at flyingkettle.com (Thomas Goodey) Date: Thu May 11 10:25:37 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] No... Tony Blair's problems are too serious for St. Helena In-Reply-To: <000d01c674d3$67f97140$0a0b000a@shgbank10> Message-ID: <44637384.13636.26B77F@thomas.flyingkettle.com> On 11 May 2006 at 8:17, John Turner, Manager, Bank of St. Helena wrote: > A recording of the proceedings also shows that there was general > laughter when the topic of St. Helena was raised, and it is thought > locally that MPs were treating St. Helena as a joke, though I should > point out that the laughter may have been over something else. The joke was that, in the context of Blair's recent troubles, it was naturally supposed that the plan was to exile him to St. Helena as a means of neutralizing him... a good idea as far as it goes, but maybe Mars would be more certain! Thomas Goodey *************************************** To surrender was not even thought of - better by far to die a clean death. There could not be any question of pardon or sentence to mere imprisonment... for the strife between Civilization and Boskonia in no way resembled the wars between fundamentally similar and friendly countries which Terra knew so frequently of old. It was a galaxy-wide struggle for survival between two diametrically opposed, mutually exclusive, and absolutely incompatible cultures; a duel to the death in which quarter was neither asked nor given; a conflict which was and had to be one of ruthless, complete, and utter extinction... ..........First Lensman, by E. E. Smith From lindama at savati.co.za Thu May 11 23:41:41 2006 From: lindama at savati.co.za (Linda Maierwieser) Date: Thu May 11 11:40:21 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail References: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED921044C90@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> <001001c6746e$b82b5530$6400a8c0@main> Message-ID: <001a01c67543$b115eaa0$0b02a8c0@cpt.savati.co.za> Hi All, My name is Linda born in Cape Town SA I want to thank all who stands up for CT I lived in the State of Florida USA 2 1/2 years and 12 years in Austria - but Cape Town that is where my heart is there is no place like it I loved the States and Europe but there is only one Table Mountain - We take it for granted - but when living overseas wake up in the morning open the curtain and no Table Mountain our beautiful beaches with breathtaking views - the people warm and friendly. My grandfather was born on St. Helena JOSHUA they arrived in Cape Town about 100 years ago. There is a negative side to Cape Town but it's something you learn to take in your stride. Linda Maierwieser Internal Sales Savati (PTY) LTD T/A as S?dmo Tel: (021) 531 6646 Fax: (021) 531 0104 ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Greenfield To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail At the risk of getting too far off the subject now, I second Tessa's comments. South Africa is a great country, and Cape Town in particular is a wonderful place. Like any place in the world, it has its dangers and faults, but I doubt I would have spent so much time there, then gone back the following year, then convinced my sister and her family to go, then convinced my siblings to pool together to send my dad there for his 75th birthday present. He loved it, joining a tour for part of it, but also being completley on his own for a while in Cape Town (at age 75) and he couldn't speak highly enough of it. Every place has its problems, but I've come to really love South Africa, its people, its land, and Cape Town is arguably the nicest large city in SA. I would love to go back again (as I would back to St Helena) and hope to at some point when I can afford a decent-stay trip again (it's not exactly a short hop from the west coast of the US). Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tessa M. Hughley To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail To add my two cents in defense of South Africa and Cape Town in particular: I visited Cape Town and the surrounding areas three times in the last several years and fell in love with the city and the country. I was aware of the "high rate of crime" and had been warned about it by various people. I was never afraid or worried for my safety while I was there. I was careful in the same way that I am careful here in the United States, or traveling in any other country. A group of us were sitting at a restaurant's terrace one morning and as I looked around at our group, I marveled at the fact that all of us were sitting there together; one Zulu, ("Black" by SA/Apartheid terms), two whites, and three "Coloreds" (brown). I was never in South Africa during the time of Apartheid but I know what things were like then and found it hard to imagine that there was a time when we would not have been able to have that breakfast together. South Africa is a beautiful country and I recommend it highly. J ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Carmelita Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:55 AM To: list@sthelena.se Subject: Re: [STHELENA] response on last e-mail Hi The phrase that caught my eye is ..."infrastructure falling apart" all because they're not paying taxes? I think that they are referring to when 'apartheid' was constitutionally brought to an end. If 'they' were a young group of people, it was probaly their forefathers that contributed to the infrastructure. In South Africa 'these people' are a minority group and yes they had all the opportunities to built the infrastructure to 'their' liking without the rest of the population to contribute or maybe have a say in it. Just like in any country we pay taxes, depending on the income group you fall in. Another comment I could add is that our new government is still very young (12 years) and still going through some growing pains. All wrong-doing can not be fix in a moment and saying 'sorry' will not bring back people who lost their lifes fighting for freedom, or (those who can remember) replace your pride and dignity. We have a huge number of people living in extreme poverty and sometimes they have to steal to have something on their table (that is to say:if they have a table). I am not justifying any crime, but some understanding is also needed. South Africa still has a far way to go before the hatred and anger is totally forgotten. As for the blond blue eyed people: R.S.A. has an extremely wide spectrum of skin colours. And the "white" population originated from Europe as they were called 'europians' in the aparthaid days. So I wouldn't be surprised if the group of people you met had dominant Scandinavian genes (or something similar). The only 'falling apart' is the unfortunate bad publicity South Africa got with a (previously) high ranking political figure. Something that should be taken into consideration: unlike other parts of Africa (or the rest of the world) 1. the citizens drink tap water, it is safe 2. we have flushing toilets (you can only wish for that in parts of Mexico) 3. and there is no wild animals roaming the streets (unless they escaped from the zoo) Regards Carmelita Carmelita; The name of that park by-the-way is Pottawatomie it's on the Fox river the town is made up of another group of decedents of blond blue eye people the Scandinavians who where the first settlers. If you were to go to any of the local churches on Sunday you would not be able to find any brown eye people. These people who left Africa claim they were the ones that paid and built the infrastructure that is falling apart now that they aren't there paying taxes is this true? My daughter and son-inlaw live there and I go there often with the grandkids when I go to visit. Carmelita Benjamin wrote: Hi I know this is off the topic, but just in response to previous mail... As a South African citizen I have given immigration a thought. I came to the conclusion that crime is just about everywhere in this world. The most important thing is that you stay away from areas that you know are prone to crime and violence. And just like in any country, your house MIGHT be broken into, or your bag MIGHT be snatched or your car MIGHT be hijacked and the list goes on with a load of MIGHT(S). Unfortunately some people who immigrate (from S.A.) think that the rest of the world is crime-free. They tend to forget that life is what you make of it and to empower yourself with knowledge is more important. The grass might look greener on the other side but giving up family and friends is a high price to pay for fear/ignorance. And the funny language they spoke was most probably Afrikaans (since they have blond hair and blue eyes [harsh generalisation from my side, I might add]). Carmelita >>> imann@rocketmail.com 5/8/2006 2:01:50 PM >>> Don't get me wrong I don't think most islands have a liberal emigration policy, there not enough room. That and people never realize that there occupation that they get paid well at in one society might not pay as well in another. While I'm at it question? I was at a park in St. Charles Il., and met a large group of blond blue eyed people who spoke a funny language and I asked them where they where from. They told me South Africa and the reason they left was the crime rate is unbearable now that there is a new government in. Is this crime rate in Africa effecting the Saints? How big of a police group does the island have? The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. SEMPER FI Co. L 3rd Balattalion, 1st Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade Sgt Ivan Mann USMC Retired http://ca.geocities.com/imann.rm/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060511/dae8a062/attachment-0001.htm From tcarljackson at msn.com Thu May 11 16:52:39 2006 From: tcarljackson at msn.com (T. Carl JACKSON) Date: Thu May 11 16:52:53 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic Message-ID: Is there no air traffic to this part of the world? Not even a seaplane? Only helicopters to ferry tourists to and from ships in the harbors? Perhaps something should be done about this. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060511/9de8e7bf/attachment.htm From BILL-LOCKMAN at woh.rr.com Thu May 11 22:54:38 2006 From: BILL-LOCKMAN at woh.rr.com (BILL-LOCKMAN@woh.rr.com) Date: Thu May 11 22:55:15 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HAVE YOU SEEN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF ST. HELENA ??? IT IS MOST DIFFICULT TO BUILD AN AIRPORT UP THE SIDE OF A VOLCANIC FORMATION. ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Carl JACKSON" Date: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:57 am Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic To: list@sthelena.se > Is there no air traffic to this part of the world? Not even a > seaplane? Only helicopters to ferry tourists to and from ships in > the harbors? Perhaps something should be done about this. From tmhughley at wcbcorps.com Thu May 11 23:37:00 2006 From: tmhughley at wcbcorps.com (Tessa M. Hughley) Date: Thu May 11 23:37:13 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic Message-ID: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED92105CEEB@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> Difficult yes, but possible. See the attached link to BBC news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4350605.stm -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of BILL-LOCKMAN@woh.rr.com Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:55 PM To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: Re: [STHELENA] air traffic HAVE YOU SEEN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF ST. HELENA ??? IT IS MOST DIFFICULT TO BUILD AN AIRPORT UP THE SIDE OF A VOLCANIC FORMATION. ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Carl JACKSON" Date: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:57 am Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic To: list@sthelena.se > Is there no air traffic to this part of the world? Not even a > seaplane? Only helicopters to ferry tourists to and from ships in > the harbors? Perhaps something should be done about this. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From iambiker at nildram.co.uk Fri May 12 20:55:27 2006 From: iambiker at nildram.co.uk (Jon (who else?)) Date: Fri May 12 20:55:41 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Wonder what Jonathon would make of this References: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED92105CEEB@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> Message-ID: <005901c675f5$a8394280$5d4f0c54@meg> Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love paying my TV licence) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm Jon Dingey East London Correspondant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060512/28b07447/attachment.htm From sea_dragons at earthlink.net Fri May 12 21:05:24 2006 From: sea_dragons at earthlink.net (Christopher D. Lewis) Date: Fri May 12 21:05:30 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: <005901c675f5$a8394280$5d4f0c54@meg> References: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED92105CEEB@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> <005901c675f5$a8394280$5d4f0c54@meg> Message-ID: <92C95F93-C3D7-4989-A76B-3087A7954672@earthlink.net> On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > paying my TV licence) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a menace to other quarantined pets .... Best regards, Chris From robar83 at webmail.co.za Fri May 12 21:34:33 2006 From: robar83 at webmail.co.za (robert barnard) Date: Fri May 12 21:35:00 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic In-Reply-To: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED92105CEEB@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> References: <7A91A47B3B43D34D985936BD7C8ED92105CEEB@bpmcexch2.wcbcorps.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:37:00 -0700 "Tessa M. Hughley" wrote: >Difficult yes, but possible. See the attached link to BBC >news: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4350605.stm > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se >[mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of BILL-LOCKMAN@woh.rr.com >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:55 PM >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: Re: [STHELENA] air traffic > >HAVE YOU SEEN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF ST. HELENA ??? IT IS MOST >DIFFICULT TO >BUILD AN AIRPORT UP THE SIDE OF A VOLCANIC FORMATION. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "T. Carl JACKSON" >Date: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:57 am >Subject: [STHELENA] air traffic >To: list@sthelena.se > >> Is there no air traffic to this part of the world? Not >even a >> seaplane? Only helicopters to ferry tourists to and >from ships in >> the harbors? Perhaps something should be done about >this. >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. hey everybody check out my webpage at http//wildexpresions.8k.com and please give me ur thougts i design and hand craft furniture ___________________________________________________________________ For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm http://www.webmail.co.za the South African FREE email service From simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk Sat May 13 00:29:49 2006 From: simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk (Simon Pipe) Date: Sat May 13 00:29:53 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Message-ID: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8AAD@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? Simon Pipe -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > paying my TV licence) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a menace to other quarantined pets .... Best regards, Chris The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. From simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk Sat May 13 00:31:46 2006 From: simon.pipe at bbc.co.uk (Simon Pipe) Date: Sat May 13 00:31:53 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Message-ID: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8AAE@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a resource. Simon Pipe -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Simon Pipe Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? Simon Pipe -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > paying my TV licence) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a menace to other quarantined pets .... Best regards, Chris The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. From sal10n at hotmail.com Sat May 13 01:24:00 2006 From: sal10n at hotmail.com (Sal leo) Date: Sat May 13 01:24:14 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8AAE@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060512/acd2491e/attachment.htm From ggiill at hotmail.com Sat May 13 10:32:43 2006 From: ggiill at hotmail.com (GIL .) Date: Sat May 13 10:32:58 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8AAD@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated.From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >From: "Sal leo" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: list@sthelena.se >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:24:00 +0000 > > > >Ok ...so the story is not exactly life affecting...maybe trivial ....but >surely it's still worthy of telling if only for it's "human" aspect >....much of todays news could warrant an 18 certificate ....I personally >think this is a "worthy" report in keeping with the idyllic and safe >thoughts I will always hold after 2 visits to that enchanted island of >Saints.... > >p.s. I once read a report on the front page of my local newspaper about a >number of pigs emigrating to the island a few years ago ....do they know >where the postoffice is ....no one to date has received any postcards !!!! > > > > > > >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 > >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is > >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a > >resource. > > > > > >Simon Pipe > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > >Behalf Of Simon Pipe > >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 > >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng) > >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > > > >Simon Pipe > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis > >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 > >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > > > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > > paying my TV licence) > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > > > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to > >enter St. >Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire > >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a > >menace to other quarantined pets .... > > > >Best regards, > > Chris > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > >stated. > >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > >Further communication will >signify your consent to this. > > > > > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > >stated. > >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > > > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated.From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From: "Simon Pipe" Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng)" Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >resource. > > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, >Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >From: "Sal leo" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: list@sthelena.se >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:24:00 +0000 > > > >Ok ...so the story is not exactly life affecting...maybe trivial ....but >surely it's still worthy of telling if only for it's "human" aspect >....much of todays news could warrant an 18 certificate ....I personally >think this is a "worthy" report in keeping with the idyllic and safe >thoughts I will always hold after 2 visits to that enchanted island of >Saints.... > >p.s. I once read a report on the front page of my local newspaper about a >number of pigs emigrating to the island a few years ago ....do they know >where the postoffice is ....no one to date has received any postcards !!!! > > > > > > >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 > >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is > >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a > >resource. > > > > > >Simon Pipe > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > >Behalf Of Simon Pipe > >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 > >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng) > >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > > > >Simon Pipe > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis > >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 > >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > > > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > > paying my TV licence) > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > > > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to > >enter St. >Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire > >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a > >menace to other quarantined pets .... > > > >Best regards, > > Chris > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > >stated. > >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > >Further communication will >signify your consent to this. > > > > > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > >stated. > >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > > > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List > >To unsubscribe please send a email to: > >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:29:49 +0100 > >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > >Simon Pipe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >menace to other quarantined pets .... > >Best regards, > Chris >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >stated. >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From ggiill at hotmail.com Sat May 13 10:37:31 2006 From: ggiill at hotmail.com (GIL .) Date: Sat May 13 10:37:50 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: Message-ID: מחירי הדלק צ'אבז: התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות צילום: רויטרס כתבות נוספות חברות הנפט חתמו על הסכמים חדשים עם ונצואלה ונצואלה: מוכנים לעצור את יצוא הנפט לארה"ב ונצואלה תמכור נפט זול לעניים בארה"ב נשיא ונצואלה: העולם עומד בפני משבר אנרגיה גדול דעת קהל מה לעשות עם מיליארד דולר מס הכנסה שיתקבלו ממכירת ישקר? להגדיל את סל התרופות להוריד את שיעור המע"מ להחזיר חובות של המדינה בחו"ל לסבסד את מוצרי היסוד (לחם, חלב וכו') להגדיל יותר את שכר המינימום בחר באחד והצבע תוצאות ארכיון משבר אנרגיה? בוונצואלה הדלק זול יותר ממים בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת נטל מחירי הדלק העולים - מחיר הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הנמוך בעולם, ועולה פחות ממים מינרליים. הנשיא צ'אבז התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות, ואף מסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות סוכנויות הידיעות נהג המונית ג'יימה טינוקו עובד ברחובות קאראקס עם מכונית שצורכת 72 ליטר דלק ביום. אך הוא לא דואג, משום מיכל מלא עולה לו רק 2.30 דולר. בארה"ב בנק במינסוטה מציע: הגנה ממחירי הדלק / סוכנויות הידיעות נהגים באזור העיר סט. קלאוד במינסוטה, יכולים להצטרף לבנק First Fuels, שמאפשר להם לרכוש דלק לשימוש עתידי במחיר נמוך לכתבה המלאה בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת עול מחירי האנרגיה העולים (ראה מסגרת) - הדלק בוונצואלה הוא כיום הזול ביותר בעולם, ועולה 12 סנט לגלון. הנשיא, הוגו צ'אבז, התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות שהופכות את הדלק לזול כל כך. צ'אבז, אחד ממבקריו החריפים ביותר של הנשיא בוש, החל אפילו לסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות. "לגרינגוס (כינוי "חיבה" לאמריקנים) האלה יש הכל, אז למה הדלק שלהם כל כך יקר?", שואל טינוקו ומגחך. "אין להם רזרבות?" מחיר הדלק בארה"ב בעונת הקיץ צפוי לעמוד על ממוצע של 2.71 דולר לגלון, 34 סנט יותר מאשר בקיץ שעבר. הדלק בוונצואלה - הכי זול בעולם בוונצואלה, יצואנית הנפט החמישית בגודלה בעולם, נהגים ממלאים טנק דלק במחיר נמוך ממחירה של ארוחת בוקר זולה. המדינה נהנית לציין כי הדלק עולה פחות ממים מינרליים. לפי דו"ח שפרסמה קרן-המטבע הבינלאומית, הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הזול ביותר בעולם; הוא עומד על כשליש ממחיר הדלק ביצרנית הגדולה בעולם, סעודיה. בצעד מתוקשר החל צ'אבז בחורף האחרון להעניק הנחה של 40% על דלק ונפט לחימום שמפיצה חברת הזיקוק מוונצואלה, סיטאגו, לאזרחים אמריקנים עניים. פרט לכך, פועל צ'אבז לחיזוק בריתות אזוריות באמצעות מכירת דלק במחיר מוזל למדינות במרכז אמריקה ובקאריביים. כלכלנים שמתנגדים לסובסידיות על הדלק בוונצואלה טוענים כי הן מעודדות בזבוז ועולות למדינה מיליארדי דולרים ברווחים אבודים. בנוסף, מעודדות הסובסידיות הברחת דלק לקולומביה השכנה, וגורמות לתורים ארוכים של נהגים מברזיל שממתינים למלא דלק באזור הגבול הדרומי. >From: "GIL ." >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: list@sthelena.se >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:32:43 +0300 > > > >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) i מחירי הדלק צ'אבז: התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות צילום: רויטרס כתבות נוספות חברות הנפט חתמו על הסכמים חדשים עם ונצואלה ונצואלה: מוכנים לעצור את יצוא הנפט לארה"ב ונצואלה תמכור נפט זול לעניים בארה"ב נשיא ונצואלה: העולם עומד בפני משבר אנרגיה גדול דעת קהל מה לעשות עם מיליארד דולר מס הכנסה שיתקבלו ממכירת ישקר? להגדיל את סל התרופות להוריד את שיעור המע"מ להחזיר חובות של המדינה בחו"ל לסבסד את מוצרי היסוד (לחם, חלב וכו') להגדיל יותר את שכר המינימום בחר באחד והצבע תוצאות ארכיון משבר אנרגיה? בוונצואלה הדלק זול יותר ממים בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת נטל מחירי הדלק העולים - מחיר הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הנמוך בעולם, ועולה פחות ממים מינרליים. הנשיא צ'אבז התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות, ואף מסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות סוכנויות הידיעות נהג המונית ג'יימה טינוקו עובד ברחובות קאראקס עם מכונית שצורכת 72 ליטר דלק ביום. אך הוא לא דואג, משום מיכל מלא עולה לו רק 2.30 דולר. בארה"ב בנק במינסוטה מציע: הגנה ממחירי הדלק / סוכנויות הידיעות נהגים באזור העיר סט. קלאוד במינסוטה, יכולים להצטרף לבנק First Fuels, שמאפשר להם לרכוש דלק לשימוש עתידי במחיר נמוך לכתבה המלאה בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת עול מחירי האנרגיה העולים (ראה מסגרת) - הדלק בוונצואלה הוא כיום הזול ביותר בעולם, ועולה 12 סנט לגלון. הנשיא, הוגו צ'אבז, התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות שהופכות את הדלק לזול כל כך. צ'אבז, אחד ממבקריו החריפים ביותר של הנשיא בוש, החל אפילו לסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות. "לגרינגוס (כינוי "חיבה" לאמריקנים) האלה יש הכל, אז למה הדלק שלהם כל כך יקר?", שואל טינוקו ומגחך. "אין להם רזרבות?" מחיר הדלק בארה"ב בעונת הקיץ צפוי לעמוד על ממוצע של 2.71 דולר לגלון, 34 סנט יותר מאשר בקיץ שעבר. הדלק בוונצואלה - הכי זול בעולם בוונצואלה, יצואנית הנפט החמישית בגודלה בעולם, נהגים ממלאים טנק דלק במחיר נמוך ממחירה של ארוחת בוקר זולה. המדינה נהנית לציין כי הדלק עולה פחות ממים מינרליים. לפי דו"ח שפרסמה קרן-המטבע הבינלאומית, הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הזול ביותר בעולם; הוא עומד על כשליש ממחיר הדלק ביצרנית הגדולה בעולם, סעודיה. בצעד מתוקשר החל צ'אבז בחורף האחרון להעניק הנחה של 40% על דלק ונפט לחימום שמפיצה חברת הזיקוק מוונצואלה, סיטאגו, לאזרחים אמריקנים עניים. פרט לכך, פועל צ'אבז לחיזוק בריתות אזוריות באמצעות מכירת דלק במחיר מוזל למדינות במרכז אמריקה ובקאריביים. כלכלנים שמתנגדים לסובסידיות על הדלק בוונצואלה טוענים כי הן מעודדות בזבוז ועולות למדינה מיליארדי דולרים ברווחים אבודים. בנוסף, מעודדות הסובסידיות הברחת דלק לקולומביה השכנה, וגורמות לתורים ארוכים של נהגים מברזיל שממתינים למלא דלק באזור הגבול הדרומי. מחירי הדלק צ'אבז: התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות צילום: רויטרס כתבות נוספות חברות הנפט חתמו על הסכמים חדשים עם ונצואלה ונצואלה: מוכנים לעצור את יצוא הנפט לארה"ב ונצואלה תמכור נפט זול לעניים בארה"ב נשיא ונצואלה: העולם עומד בפני משבר אנרגיה גדול דעת קהל מה לעשות עם מיליארד דולר מס הכנסה שיתקבלו ממכירת ישקר? להגדיל את סל התרופות להוריד את שיעור המע"מ להחזיר חובות של המדינה בחו"ל לסבסד את מוצרי היסוד (לחם, חלב וכו') להגדיל יותר את שכר המינימום בחר באחד והצבע תוצאות ארכיון משבר אנרגיה? בוונצואלה הדלק זול יותר ממים בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת נטל מחירי הדלק העולים - מחיר הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הנמוך בעולם, ועולה פחות ממים מינרליים. הנשיא צ'אבז התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות, ואף מסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות סוכנויות הידיעות נהג המונית ג'יימה טינוקו עובד ברחובות קאראקס עם מכונית שצורכת 72 ליטר דלק ביום. אך הוא לא דואג, משום מיכל מלא עולה לו רק 2.30 דולר. בארה"ב בנק במינסוטה מציע: הגנה ממחירי הדלק / סוכנויות הידיעות נהגים באזור העיר סט. קלאוד במינסוטה, יכולים להצטרף לבנק First Fuels, שמאפשר להם לרכוש דלק לשימוש עתידי במחיר נמוך לכתבה המלאה בזמן שהצרכנים בארה"ב כורעים תחת עול מחירי האנרגיה העולים (ראה מסגרת) - הדלק בוונצואלה הוא כיום הזול ביותר בעולם, ועולה 12 סנט לגלון. הנשיא, הוגו צ'אבז, התחייב לשמור על הסובסידיות שהופכות את הדלק לזול כל כך. צ'אבז, אחד ממבקריו החריפים ביותר של הנשיא בוש, החל אפילו לסבסד דלק בשכונות אמריקניות עניות. "לגרינגוס (כינוי "חיבה" לאמריקנים) האלה יש הכל, אז למה הדלק שלהם כל כך יקר?", שואל טינוקו ומגחך. "אין להם רזרבות?" מחיר הדלק בארה"ב בעונת הקיץ צפוי לעמוד על ממוצע של 2.71 דולר לגלון, 34 סנט יותר מאשר בקיץ שעבר. הדלק בוונצואלה - הכי זול בעולם בוונצואלה, יצואנית הנפט החמישית בגודלה בעולם, נהגים ממלאים טנק דלק במחיר נמוך ממחירה של ארוחת בוקר זולה. המדינה נהנית לציין כי הדלק עולה פחות ממים מינרליים. לפי דו"ח שפרסמה קרן-המטבע הבינלאומית, הדלק בוונצואלה הוא הזול ביותר בעולם; הוא עומד על כשליש ממחיר הדלק ביצרנית הגדולה בעולם, סעודיה. בצעד מתוקשר החל צ'אבז בחורף האחרון להעניק הנחה של 40% על דלק ונפט לחימום שמפיצה חברת הזיקוק מוונצואלה, סיטאגו, לאזרחים אמריקנים עניים. פרט לכך, פועל צ'אבז לחיזוק בריתות אזוריות באמצעות מכירת דלק במחיר מוזל למדינות במרכז אמריקה ובקאריביים. כלכלנים שמתנגדים לסובסידיות על הדלק בוונצואלה טוענים כי הן מעודדות בזבוז ועולות למדינה מיליארדי דולרים ברווחים אבודים. בנוסף, מעודדות הסובסידיות הברחת דלק לקולומביה השכנה, וגורמות לתורים ארוכים של נהגים מברזיל שממתינים למלא דלק באזור הגבול הדרומי. s confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated.From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >>From: "Sal leo" >>Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: list@sthelena.se >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:24:00 +0000 >> >> >> >>Ok ...so the story is not exactly life affecting...maybe trivial ....but >>surely it's still worthy of telling if only for it's "human" aspect >>....much of todays news could warrant an 18 certificate ....I personally >>think this is a "worthy" report in keeping with the idyllic and safe >>thoughts I will always hold after 2 visits to that enchanted island of >>Saints.... >> >>p.s. I once read a report on the front page of my local newspaper about a >>number of pigs emigrating to the island a few years ago ....do they know >>where the postoffice is ....no one to date has received any postcards !!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: "Simon Pipe" >>Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >> >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >> >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >> >resource. >> > >> > >> >Simon Pipe >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >> >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >> >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >> >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng) >> >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> > >> >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> > >> >Simon Pipe >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >> >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >> >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >> >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >> >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> > >> > >> >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> > >> > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > > paying my TV licence) >> > > >> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> > >> >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >> >enter St. >>Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >> >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >> >menace to other quarantined pets .... >> > >> >Best regards, >> > Chris >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> > >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> > >> >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >> >stated. >> >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >> >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> >Further communication will >>signify your consent to this. >> > >> > >> > >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> > >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> > >> >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >> >stated. >> >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >> >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> >Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> > >> > >> > >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >> >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated.From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. 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Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >From: "Simon Pipe" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >>Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >>actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >>resource. >> >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Simon Pipe >>Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >>From: "Sal leo" >>Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: list@sthelena.se >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:24:00 +0000 >> >> >> >>Ok ...so the story is not exactly life affecting...maybe trivial ....but >>surely it's still worthy of telling if only for it's "human" aspect >>....much of todays news could warrant an 18 certificate ....I personally >>think this is a "worthy" report in keeping with the idyllic and safe >>thoughts I will always hold after 2 visits to that enchanted island of >>Saints.... >> >>p.s. I once read a report on the front page of my local newspaper about a >>number of pigs emigrating to the island a few years ago ....do they know >>where the postoffice is ....no one to date has received any postcards !!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: "Simon Pipe" >>Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:31:46 +0100 >> >Okay - I've just read the tortoise story. Maybe the bbc website is >> >actually under-resourced... If you think of proper stories as a >> >resource. >> > >> > >> >Simon Pipe >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >> >Behalf Of Simon Pipe >> >Sent: 12 May 2006 23:30 >> >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng) >> >Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> > >> >What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> > >> >Simon Pipe >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >> >Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >> >Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >> >To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >> >Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> > >> > >> >On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> > >> > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > > paying my TV licence) >> > > >> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> > >> >My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >> >enter St. >>Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >> >attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >> >menace to other quarantined pets .... >> > >> >Best regards, >> > Chris >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> > >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> > >> >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >> >stated. >> >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >> >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> >Further communication will >>signify your consent to this. >> > >> > >> > >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> > >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> > >> >This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> >personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >> >stated. >> >If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> >Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> >reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >> >BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> >Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> > >> > >> > >> >The S:t Helena Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >> > > >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > > >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > > > >>From: "Simon Pipe" >>Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:29:49 +0100 >> >>What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >>Simon Pipe >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >>Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >>Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >>To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >>Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >>On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >>My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >>enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >>attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >>menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >>Best regards, >> Chris >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >>This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >>stated. >>If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >>Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >>reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >>BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >>Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From iambiker at nildram.co.uk Sun May 14 08:11:04 2006 From: iambiker at nildram.co.uk (Jon (who else?)) Date: Sun May 14 08:11:08 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena References: <3103E6DC0AB6144FB61C906EEFFB6ACDAC8AAD@bbcxue801.national.core.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: <009501c6771d$316c83f0$48a60c54@meg> Hello Simon, It's nothing personal. I seem to remember a report on the television news about how the BBC was spending the licence fee. One of the comments made was concerning the funding it gave to run the Web site. The reporter said something along the lines that the BBC's website was the best funded online newspaper in the world (or words to that effect) Jon Dingey East London (and suitable smited) Correspondant ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Pipe To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? Simon Pipe -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > paying my TV licence) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a menace to other quarantined pets .... Best regards, Chris The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. The S:t Helena Mailing List To unsubscribe please send a email to: list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060514/cdd7c619/attachment.htm From ggiill at hotmail.com Sun May 14 13:38:27 2006 From: ggiill at hotmail.com (GIL .) Date: Sun May 14 13:38:42 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: <009501c6771d$316c83f0$48a60c54@meg> Message-ID: Web site. The reporter said something along the lines that the BBC's website was the best funded online newspaper in the world (or words >From: "Jon (who else?)" >Reply-To: "All about It's nothing personal. I seem to remember a report on the television news about how the BBC was spending the licence fee. Web site. The reporter said something along the lines that the BBC's website was the best funded online newspaper in the world (or words >From: "Jon (who else?)" >Reply-To: "All about One of the comments made was concerning the funding >it gave to run the Web site. The reporter said something along the lines >that the BBC's website was the best funded online newspaper in the world >(or words >From: "Jon (who else?)" >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >Subject: Re: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:11:04 +0100 > >Hello Simon, > >It's nothing personal. I seem to remember a report on the television news >about how the BBC was spending the licence fee. One of the comments made >was concerning the funding it gave to run the Web site. The reporter said >something along the lines that the BBC's website was the best funded online >newspaper in the world (or words to that effect) > >Jon >Dingey East London (and suitable smited) Correspondant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Pipe > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:29 PM > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. >Helena > > > What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? > > Simon Pipe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On > Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis > Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 > To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) > Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena > > > On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: > > > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love > > paying my TV licence) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm > > My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to > enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire > attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a > menace to other quarantined pets .... > > Best regards, > Chris > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > > > The S:t Helena Mailing List > To unsubscribe please send a email to: > list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From ggiill at hotmail.com Sun May 14 13:42:05 2006 From: ggiill at hotmail.com (GIL .) Date: Sun May 14 13:42:15 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Reply-To: "All about St. Helena - The Island in the South >Atlantic(Eng)" >To: list@sthelena.se >Subject: Re: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:27 +0300 > >Web site. The reporter said something along the lines that the BBC's >funded online newspaper in the world (or words >ראררארא >>From: "Joראn (who else?)" >>Reאlytארo reרbeראr ארa report on the >television news licדגד גקכרence fee. Web site.ארררא Tאראhe reporter said >something along the lines that the BBC's webאראsitראe was the bfאראראnded >online newspaper in the world (or words > >>Froרm: "Jon (?)" >>Reארplyר-To: it gave to run the Web site. The something aloאראngאראר the >>the BBC's website was the best funded online neאארwspaper in the wld (or >>words >ראר >>Fארראrom: "Jon (who eרlse?)" >>Repאראly-To: "All aboutאארר St. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>To: ראררא"אAll רSt. Helena - The Island in the South >>Atlantic(Eng)" >>Subject: Re: RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >>Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:11:04 +0100 >> >>ר>>It's nothing personal. I seem to remember a report on the televisiארon >>אhow the BBCרא was spending the licence fee. One of רcomאments made was >>conרארטcerning the funding it gave to run theאאto that effect) >> >>Jon >>Dingey Eaטאטאst London (and suitable smited) Correspondant >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Simon Pipe >> To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:29 PM >> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. >>Helena >> >> >> What makes you think the BBC website is overfunded? >> >> Simon Pipe >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On >> Behalf Of Christopher D. Lewis >> Sent: 12 May 2006 20:05 >> To: All about St. Helena - The Island in the South Atlantic(Eng) >> Subject: [STHELENA] Attack Tortoise Moves to St. Helena >> >> >> On May 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Jon (who else?) wrote: >> >> > Saw this on the BBC's fabulously over funded web site (damn I love >> > paying my TV licence) >> > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/3610425.stm >> >> My favorite part is that the name of the pet tortoise granted leave to >> enter St. Helena is "Blitzen". Must be one of those famous Cheshire >> attack tortoises I hear so much about :-) I wonder if he will be a >> menace to other quarantined pets .... >> >> Best regards, >> Chris >> The S:t Helena Mailing List >> To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically >> stated. >> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the >> BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> >> The S:t Helena Mailing List >> To unsubscribe please send a email to: >> list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. >> > > >>The S:t Helena Mailing List >>To unsubscribe please send a email to: >>list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. > > >The S:t Helena Mailing List >To unsubscribe please send a email to: >list-leave@sthelena.se and answer the confirm mail. From ggiill at hotmail.com Sun May 14 13:44:20 2006 From: ggiill at hotmail.com (GIL .) Date: Sun May 14 13:44:31 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Moves to St. Helena In-Reply-To: Message-ID: iambiker@nildram.co.uk From john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se Sun May 14 20:43:50 2006 From: john.ekwall at mailbox.swipnet.se (John Ekwall) Date: Sun May 14 20:44:00 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Fw: pleaes help Message-ID: <001301c67786$580a2260$c34dfea9@HemPC> This is forwarded message that I received./John Ekwall Hello im not sure if im on the right address but i e,mailed a couple of weeks ago asking if any one had any information on a family member who was in the British army around 1840 1860 name of Shrimpton married a local girl had 6 children born in St Helena im very sorry if im onto the wrong person if i am could you please send me e mail address Thank you in anticipation Brian Hunter Reply-To: "brian hunter" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From philip.myrtle at ashmole.org.uk Thu May 18 12:40:18 2006 From: philip.myrtle at ashmole.org.uk (ashmoles) Date: Thu May 18 12:40:53 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling Message-ID: <006201c67a67$80373640$cb789a51@user6a472e7d3e> Dear John, Yes, please send me the MPs of Blair's efforts on St Helena. Myrtle Ashmole *************************************************************************** Philip and Myrtle Ashmole, Kidston Mill, Peebles EH45 8PH, UK. email: philip.myrtle@ashmole.org.uk web site: www.kidstonmill.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060518/2d73d9a9/attachment.htm From manager at sainthelenabank.com Thu May 18 13:01:57 2006 From: manager at sainthelenabank.com (Manager, Bank of St. Helena) Date: Thu May 18 13:00:32 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling In-Reply-To: <006201c67a67$80373640$cb789a51@user6a472e7d3e> Message-ID: <003c01c67a6a$7e22a6c0$2d0b000a@shgbank45> Hi, Myrtle. I'm sorry but I didn't keep the file for more than a few days. A transcript appears in last week's St. Helena Independent, which you can probably download from http://www.saint.fm/Independent/index.htm (if they've fixed the glitch that was preventing downloads yesterday) or I can email a copy to you. On a loosely related subject, are giant earwigs found in Jamestown? My mother thinks she saw one. If its a possibility I'll get a proper description from her. Regards John Turner Manager, Bank of St. Helena www.SaintHelenaBank.com Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena. Tel: +290 2044; Fax: +290 2196 NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. _____ From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of ashmoles Sent: 18 May 2006 10:40 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling Dear John, Yes, please send me the MPs of Blair's efforts on St Helena. Myrtle Ashmole *************************************************************************** Philip and Myrtle Ashmole, Kidston Mill, Peebles EH45 8PH, UK. email: philip.myrtle@ashmole.org.uk web site: www.kidstonmill.org.uk __________ NOD32 1.1504 (20060424) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060518/f857b4b5/attachment.htm From dave2182 at hotmail.com Thu May 18 13:07:35 2006 From: dave2182 at hotmail.com (Dave Simpson) Date: Thu May 18 13:07:47 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling Message-ID: Ive still got it, I will forward it to Myrtle. Dave ----------------------------------------------- > From: manager@sainthelenabank.com > To: list@sthelena.se > Subject: RE: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling > Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:01:57 +0000 > > Hi, Myrtle. > I'm sorry but I didn't keep the file for more than a few days. A transcript appears in last week's St. Helena Independent, which you can probably download from http://www.saint.fm/Independent/index.htm (if they've fixed the glitch that was preventing downloads yesterday) or I can email a copy to you. > On a loosely related subject, are giant earwigs found in Jamestown? My mother thinks she saw one. If its a possibility I'll get a proper description from her. > Regards > John Turner > Manager, Bank of St. Helena > www.SaintHelenaBank.com > Post Office Building, Main Street, Jamestown, Island of St. Helena. > Tel: +290 2044; Fax: +290 2196 > NOTICE TO RECIPIENTS: Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and not necessarily those of the Bank of St. Helena. This communication and any attachments are confidential, meant solely for the intended recipient of the transmission, and may be a communication privileged by law. Access to this by anyone else is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error or are not the intended recipient, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the author by reply and then kindly delete the communication. Thank you. > ----------------------------------------------- > From: list-bounces@sthelena.se [mailto:list-bounces@sthelena.se] On Behalf Of ashmoles > Sent: 18 May 2006 10:40 > To: list@sthelena.se > Subject: [STHELENA] Blair's stumbling > Dear John, > Yes, please send me the MPs of Blair's efforts on St Helena. > Myrtle Ashmole > *************************************************************************** > Philip and Myrtle Ashmole, Kidston Mill, Peebles EH45 8PH, UK. > email: philip.myrtle@ashmole.org.uk > web site: www.kidstonmill.org.uk > __________ NOD32 1.1504 (20060424) Information __________ > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From IrvingDylan at aol.com Thu May 18 13:12:53 2006 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Thu May 18 13:13:07 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Myrtle and me, please John ... Message-ID: <480.548640.319db0b5@aol.com> ... please will you email me a transcript of the report? Most grateful to you, IrvingDylan p.s I'm banking on a 'yes'! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060518/d9f92264/attachment.htm From IrvingDylan at aol.com Thu May 18 15:10:20 2006 From: IrvingDylan at aol.com (IrvingDylan@aol.com) Date: Thu May 18 15:10:36 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] John-the-Bank ... Saint David ... Irv thanks you both ... Message-ID: <385.2f411f5.319dcc3c@aol.com> ... and, I guess, all of our thanks to UK President Blair's sitting member for North Welsh Conwy, who some call Dotty-old-Betty Williams. Then, again, those in our Palace of Westminster Varieties who titter at her expense don't commute between their seat in the House of Commons and a constituency overshadowed by a gritty, dark-stoned fortress of a medieval castle with its eerie ability to evoke as centuries-old an atmosphere over her Labour voters. Behind Castle Conwy lies the dramatics skyline of Snowdonia; and, Saint Listers, take it from Irv that, all in all, the fortress casts a mighty powerful spell over Dotty-Do-Da and all who vote for her. Powerful enough for the 10th female MP to come out of Welsh Wales in more than 100 years and want to risk Mr Speaker Michael Martin, MP, demanding "Order ... order in the House" more than the once as the Chamber erupted with laughter at the mention of a little-known volcanic island in the South Atlantic owing its economical survival to a witless Motherland. As good as governed by invading Scots - Mr Speaker Martin among them - or how else would you encourage the rough, tough representative of the people of north-east Glasgow to come to work in his free samples of Silkies' opaque, black trouser socks my Welsh-born Significant Other interchanges with her alluring pairs of 60%-off Ultra-Shapely's. "Send him there," heckled assorted Tory-blues as President Blair muttered another "You see ..." - signal enough for Saints instantly to fear the UK's unwanted Leader is as weak in geography as when it comes to knowing his law-and-order - rude but funny and a mistaken idea. Okay, or was it, for the French to dump their unwanted Emperor Bonaparte on the saintly isle? But a well-rotted tourist attraction come the airstrip. Me thinks if Napoleon's exile were to be topped by Blair's, we Brits would be stuck with years more of a Scottish Administration and Jamestown would have to be blessed further with a shopping centre for fashionable Cherie to indulge her retail therapy. What was it Irv wanted to message via the Saint Helena Mailing List? He remembers ... ... Thanks again John-the-Bank and Saint David. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060518/7849c4fd/attachment-0001.htm From philip.myrtle at ashmole.org.uk Thu May 18 16:09:49 2006 From: philip.myrtle at ashmole.org.uk (ashmoles) Date: Thu May 18 16:10:25 2006 Subject: [STHELENA] Invertebrates of Prosperous Bay Plain Message-ID: <002701c67a84$c8ac61d0$cb789a51@user6a472e7d3e> I have just seen Vince Thompson's comments on the invertebrates of Prosperous Bay Plain, and the difficulty of getting information. In 2003 Philip and I spent 3 months on St Helena, at the behest of the St Helena Government and the Foreign Office, studying the invertebrates of Prosperous Bay Plain. The full report was published in December 2004, and should be available from the Environment Co-ordinator's office in Jamestown. Alternatively, the text (not the illustrations) are available on our website www.kidstonmill.org.uk We also produced a comprehensie Guide to Invertebrates of Prosperous Bay Plain. This is not on our website, but should be available at the same office, either in hard copy or electronic form. Myrtle Ashmole *************************************************************************** Philip and Myrtle Ashmole, Kidston Mill, Peebles EH45 8PH, UK. email: philip.myrtle@ashmole.org.uk web site: www.kidstonmill.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20060518/3daf9aba/attachment.htm