From Larkellerton at aol.com Sun Aug 8 20:59:47 2004 From: Larkellerton at aol.com (Larkellerton@aol.com) Date: Wed Aug 11 21:37:38 2004 Subject: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society Message-ID: <82.1296d993.2e47d223@aol.com> Dear John Ekwall I was seeking the e-mail address for St Helena Historical Society on the internet and having thought I had found it sent off the e-mail below only to discover that it was a location in California, USA. Can you advise me of an e-mail address for your St. Helena Historical Society and possibly you would be prepared to pass the following text on to them. Many thanks. John Lark For a long time now I have been trying to trace my South African roots. My great, great grandfather arrived in the Cape in the early 1820's aged 35. He died in 1854 aged 70 at Simon's Town where he had been a police constable. He was born in Russia and, I suspect, he had served in the army. His name is a problem - at his death he was called George Elias John Denison Kraatskow, but when some of his children were baptised he was just called John Denison. Kraatskow is likely to be a Dutch corruption as I am told there are no aa in Russian. There was certainly a strong Russian connection evidenced by their childrens' names Maria, Alexandra and Catherina. I am a member of Simon's Town Historical Society and when I visited the Cape three years ago from London I spent a lot of time looking through the records of "Permission to Reside". However, because of the uncertainty of exactly how the name would have been spelt, it was difficult to know what I was looking for. There is no doubt about the Russian link which passed through to my grandmother who recalled crews of Russian ships gathering for musical evenings in Simon's Town when she was a child. When looking at the "Permission to Reside" records I saw that many of the people coming to the Cape at that time were servicemen seeking discharge overseas. I did wonder if the ending of the Napoleonic Wars could have brought Russian servicemen to St Helena and with it the possibility of being discharged to the Cape. My grandmother was named Helena and I wondered if that might also indicate a link. I plan to be back in the Cape in January 2005 and would greatly value any light that you or other members of your Historical Society maybe able to throw on the case. Yours sincerely John Lark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20040808/ecf22ba9/attachment.htm From ahs at st-helena.org Wed Aug 11 22:29:00 2004 From: ahs at st-helena.org (A.H.Schulenburg) Date: Wed Aug 11 22:27:22 2004 Subject: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society References: <82.1296d993.2e47d223@aol.com> Message-ID: <00bb01c47fe2$129d1f40$20e086d4@TIME2003> Why not post your query on the St Helena Institute's 'Forum for Family History'? Follow the link at http://www.st-helena.org Regards, Alexander Schulenburg ----- Original Message ----- From: Larkellerton@aol.com To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society Dear John Ekwall I was seeking the e-mail address for St Helena Historical Society on the internet and having thought I had found it sent off the e-mail below only to discover that it was a location in California, USA. Can you advise me of an e-mail address for your St. Helena Historical Society and possibly you would be prepared to pass the following text on to them. Many thanks. John Lark For a long time now I have been trying to trace my South African roots. My great, great grandfather arrived in the Cape in the early 1820's aged 35. He died in 1854 aged 70 at Simon's Town where he had been a police constable. He was born in Russia and, I suspect, he had served in the army. His name is a problem - at his death he was called George Elias John Denison Kraatskow, but when some of his children were baptised he was just called John Denison. Kraatskow is likely to be a Dutch corruption as I am told there are no aa in Russian. There was certainly a strong Russian connection evidenced by their childrens' names Maria, Alexandra and Catherina. I am a member of Simon's Town Historical Society and when I visited the Cape three years ago from London I spent a lot of time looking through the records of "Permission to Reside". However, because of the uncertainty of exactly how the name would have been spelt, it was difficult to know what I was looking for. There is no doubt about the Russian link which passed through to my grandmother who recalled crews of Russian ships gathering for musical evenings in Simon's Town when she was a child. When looking at the "Permission to Reside" records I saw that many of the people coming to the Cape at that time were servicemen seeking discharge overseas. I did wonder if the ending of the Napoleonic Wars could have brought Russian servicemen to St Helena and with it the possibility of being discharged to the Cape. My grandmother was named Helena and I wondered if that might also indicate a link. I plan to be back in the Cape in January 2005 and would greatly value any light that you or other members of your Historical Society maybe able to throw on the case. Yours sincerely John Lark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List mailing list List@sthelena.se http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20040811/96f5bd0f/attachment.htm From Vince.Thompson at networkrail.co.uk Thu Aug 12 12:09:10 2004 From: Vince.Thompson at networkrail.co.uk (Thompson Vince) Date: Thu Aug 12 12:10:55 2004 Subject: [STHELENA] St Helena Historical Society Message-ID: <7B8F4A71DA1E8C4093009BA93C96EEEF020A7C45@rshq-sr1-m06m> The St Helena Historical Society is now part of the St Helena National Trust - [sth.nattrust@helanta.sh] Alternatively you can e-mail Nick Thorpe who is the Society's main engine Regards Vince Thompson -----Original Message----- From: list-request@sthelena.se [mailto:list-request@sthelena.se] Sent: 12 August 2004 11:01 To: list@sthelena.se Subject: List Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 Send List mailing list submissions to list@sthelena.se To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to list-request@sthelena.se You can reach the person managing the list at list-owner@sthelena.se When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Enquiry re Historical Society (Larkellerton@aol.com) 2. Re: Enquiry re Historical Society (A.H.Schulenburg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:59:47 EDT From: Larkellerton@aol.com Subject: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society To: list@sthelena.se Message-ID: <82.1296d993.2e47d223@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear John Ekwall I was seeking the e-mail address for St Helena Historical Society on the internet and having thought I had found it sent off the e-mail below only to discover that it was a location in California, USA. Can you advise me of an e-mail address for your St. Helena Historical Society and possibly you would be prepared to pass the following text on to them. Many thanks. John Lark For a long time now I have been trying to trace my South African roots. My great, great grandfather arrived in the Cape in the early 1820's aged 35. He died in 1854 aged 70 at Simon's Town where he had been a police constable. He was born in Russia and, I suspect, he had served in the army. His name is a problem - at his death he was called George Elias John Denison Kraatskow, but when some of his children were baptised he was just called John Denison. Kraatskow is likely to be a Dutch corruption as I am told there are no aa in Russian. There was certainly a strong Russian connection evidenced by their childrens' names Maria, Alexandra and Catherina. I am a member of Simon's Town Historical Society and when I visited the Cape three years ago from London I spent a lot of time looking through the records of "Permission to Reside". However, because of the uncertainty of exactly how the name would have been spelt, it was difficult to know what I was looking for. There is no doubt about the Russian link which passed through to my grandmother who recalled crews of Russian ships gathering for musical evenings in Simon's Town when she was a child. When looking at the "Permission to Reside" records I saw that many of the people coming to the Cape at that time were servicemen seeking discharge overseas. I did wonder if the ending of the Napoleonic Wars could have brought Russian servicemen to St Helena and with it the possibility of being discharged to the Cape. My grandmother was named Helena and I wondered if that might also indicate a link. I plan to be back in the Cape in January 2005 and would greatly value any light that you or other members of your Historical Society maybe able to throw on the case. Yours sincerely John Lark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20040808/ecf22ba9/a ttachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:29:00 +0100 From: "A.H.Schulenburg" Subject: Re: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society To: Message-ID: <00bb01c47fe2$129d1f40$20e086d4@TIME2003> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Why not post your query on the St Helena Institute's 'Forum for Family History'? Follow the link at http://www.st-helena.org Regards, Alexander Schulenburg ----- Original Message ----- From: Larkellerton@aol.com To: list@sthelena.se Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [STHELENA] Enquiry re Historical Society Dear John Ekwall I was seeking the e-mail address for St Helena Historical Society on the internet and having thought I had found it sent off the e-mail below only to discover that it was a location in California, USA. Can you advise me of an e-mail address for your St. Helena Historical Society and possibly you would be prepared to pass the following text on to them. Many thanks. John Lark For a long time now I have been trying to trace my South African roots. My great, great grandfather arrived in the Cape in the early 1820's aged 35. He died in 1854 aged 70 at Simon's Town where he had been a police constable. He was born in Russia and, I suspect, he had served in the army. His name is a problem - at his death he was called George Elias John Denison Kraatskow, but when some of his children were baptised he was just called John Denison. Kraatskow is likely to be a Dutch corruption as I am told there are no aa in Russian. There was certainly a strong Russian connection evidenced by their childrens' names Maria, Alexandra and Catherina. I am a member of Simon's Town Historical Society and when I visited the Cape three years ago from London I spent a lot of time looking through the records of "Permission to Reside". However, because of the uncertainty of exactly how the name would have been spelt, it was difficult to know what I was looking for. There is no doubt about the Russian link which passed through to my grandmother who recalled crews of Russian ships gathering for musical evenings in Simon's Town when she was a child. When looking at the "Permission to Reside" records I saw that many of the people coming to the Cape at that time were servicemen seeking discharge overseas. I did wonder if the ending of the Napoleonic Wars could have brought Russian servicemen to St Helena and with it the possibility of being discharged to the Cape. My grandmother was named Helena and I wondered if that might also indicate a link. I plan to be back in the Cape in January 2005 and would greatly value any light that you or other members of your Historical Society maybe able to throw on the case. Yours sincerely John Lark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ List mailing list List@sthelena.se http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kulturservern.se/pipermail/list/attachments/20040811/96f5bd0f/a ttachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List mailing list List@sthelena.se http://lists.kulturservern.se/mailman/listinfo/list End of List Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 ********************************** Your attention is drawn to the fact that this email originated from a source external to Network Rail. The content of this email (and any attachment) is confidential. 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There will be a fund raising stall for the Millennium Forest, selling Certificates to donors who sponsor a tree. The charge is ?5 and the tree is planted in the donor's name or a name chosen by the donor. Also on sale will be items from The St Helena Arts & Crafts and a souvenir booklet of the Millennium Forest. We hope all who are able to come will do so. A very enjoyable day & evening is guarranteed. Vince Thompson The content of this email (and any attachment) is confidential. It may also be legally privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email should not be used by anyone who is not an original intended recipient, nor may it be copied or disclosed to anyone who is not an original intended recipient. If you have received this email by mistake please notify us by emailing the sender, and then delete the email and any copies from your system. Liability cannot be accepted for statements made which are clearly the senders own and not made on behalf of Network Rail.